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What are the chances of a berry mutation in Pokemon X/Y?


How do berry mutations work?How many Pokemon in X & Y are Legendaries?What are the differences between Pokemon X and Pokemon Y?What are the effects of Pokemon Amie in X and Y?What are the chances to get a female starter, and is there anyway to increase the chances?How do berry mutations work?In pokemon X and Y, what are the starting pokemon's final evolutions?What 'color' is each Berry?What are the little ovals in Pokemon Amie?What are the chances to find a wild shiny Pokémon in XY & ORAS?Chances of Hidden Ability through breeding, as well as chances for gender













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I've been working to discover all the possible berry mutations on my own, assuming that Surprise Mulch would guarantee a mutation, if the berries had one, but I saw item definitions online that said it only increased the mutation chances. That seems to be the only information I can find.



What are the chances of getting a mutation, both with and without Surprise Mulch? (and with Amaze Mulch, if it differs)










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    I'd say that it's hard to tell without being able to see the inners of the game, but I would say that my personal experience has been 50/50 chance of getting a berry mutation, and I've always got berry mutation when using the surprise mulch (provided it's possible). Maybe I should start keeping track of the mutations and give a proper answer...

    – Jerry
    Jan 29 '14 at 8:56











  • I think it's more that if Berry A and Berry B won't mutate a new berry, using surprise mulch won't magically force a mutation?

    – Gwen
    Jan 29 '14 at 17:35











  • @Jerry - Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking was the case. I think if I don't end up getting an answer, I'll be doing the same thing...

    – ZAD-Man
    Jan 29 '14 at 17:41











  • @Gwen - That's definitely right. I edited the question a bit to be clearer that I understand that, thanks. :)

    – ZAD-Man
    Jan 29 '14 at 17:43






  • 1





    Mutation rate depends on the rarity of the berry. 'Cheaper' berry combos are more likely to give mutations than expensive berries (i.e. the infamous lum berry and its cohorts). Also note that berries obtained from mutation are also capable of mutating, so there's an incredibly large amount of possibilities.

    – Pharap
    Jul 23 '14 at 5:29















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I've been working to discover all the possible berry mutations on my own, assuming that Surprise Mulch would guarantee a mutation, if the berries had one, but I saw item definitions online that said it only increased the mutation chances. That seems to be the only information I can find.



What are the chances of getting a mutation, both with and without Surprise Mulch? (and with Amaze Mulch, if it differs)










share|improve this question



















  • 2





    I'd say that it's hard to tell without being able to see the inners of the game, but I would say that my personal experience has been 50/50 chance of getting a berry mutation, and I've always got berry mutation when using the surprise mulch (provided it's possible). Maybe I should start keeping track of the mutations and give a proper answer...

    – Jerry
    Jan 29 '14 at 8:56











  • I think it's more that if Berry A and Berry B won't mutate a new berry, using surprise mulch won't magically force a mutation?

    – Gwen
    Jan 29 '14 at 17:35











  • @Jerry - Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking was the case. I think if I don't end up getting an answer, I'll be doing the same thing...

    – ZAD-Man
    Jan 29 '14 at 17:41











  • @Gwen - That's definitely right. I edited the question a bit to be clearer that I understand that, thanks. :)

    – ZAD-Man
    Jan 29 '14 at 17:43






  • 1





    Mutation rate depends on the rarity of the berry. 'Cheaper' berry combos are more likely to give mutations than expensive berries (i.e. the infamous lum berry and its cohorts). Also note that berries obtained from mutation are also capable of mutating, so there's an incredibly large amount of possibilities.

    – Pharap
    Jul 23 '14 at 5:29













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I've been working to discover all the possible berry mutations on my own, assuming that Surprise Mulch would guarantee a mutation, if the berries had one, but I saw item definitions online that said it only increased the mutation chances. That seems to be the only information I can find.



What are the chances of getting a mutation, both with and without Surprise Mulch? (and with Amaze Mulch, if it differs)










share|improve this question
















I've been working to discover all the possible berry mutations on my own, assuming that Surprise Mulch would guarantee a mutation, if the berries had one, but I saw item definitions online that said it only increased the mutation chances. That seems to be the only information I can find.



What are the chances of getting a mutation, both with and without Surprise Mulch? (and with Amaze Mulch, if it differs)







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    I'd say that it's hard to tell without being able to see the inners of the game, but I would say that my personal experience has been 50/50 chance of getting a berry mutation, and I've always got berry mutation when using the surprise mulch (provided it's possible). Maybe I should start keeping track of the mutations and give a proper answer...

    – Jerry
    Jan 29 '14 at 8:56











  • I think it's more that if Berry A and Berry B won't mutate a new berry, using surprise mulch won't magically force a mutation?

    – Gwen
    Jan 29 '14 at 17:35











  • @Jerry - Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking was the case. I think if I don't end up getting an answer, I'll be doing the same thing...

    – ZAD-Man
    Jan 29 '14 at 17:41











  • @Gwen - That's definitely right. I edited the question a bit to be clearer that I understand that, thanks. :)

    – ZAD-Man
    Jan 29 '14 at 17:43






  • 1





    Mutation rate depends on the rarity of the berry. 'Cheaper' berry combos are more likely to give mutations than expensive berries (i.e. the infamous lum berry and its cohorts). Also note that berries obtained from mutation are also capable of mutating, so there's an incredibly large amount of possibilities.

    – Pharap
    Jul 23 '14 at 5:29












  • 2





    I'd say that it's hard to tell without being able to see the inners of the game, but I would say that my personal experience has been 50/50 chance of getting a berry mutation, and I've always got berry mutation when using the surprise mulch (provided it's possible). Maybe I should start keeping track of the mutations and give a proper answer...

    – Jerry
    Jan 29 '14 at 8:56











  • I think it's more that if Berry A and Berry B won't mutate a new berry, using surprise mulch won't magically force a mutation?

    – Gwen
    Jan 29 '14 at 17:35











  • @Jerry - Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking was the case. I think if I don't end up getting an answer, I'll be doing the same thing...

    – ZAD-Man
    Jan 29 '14 at 17:41











  • @Gwen - That's definitely right. I edited the question a bit to be clearer that I understand that, thanks. :)

    – ZAD-Man
    Jan 29 '14 at 17:43






  • 1





    Mutation rate depends on the rarity of the berry. 'Cheaper' berry combos are more likely to give mutations than expensive berries (i.e. the infamous lum berry and its cohorts). Also note that berries obtained from mutation are also capable of mutating, so there's an incredibly large amount of possibilities.

    – Pharap
    Jul 23 '14 at 5:29







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I'd say that it's hard to tell without being able to see the inners of the game, but I would say that my personal experience has been 50/50 chance of getting a berry mutation, and I've always got berry mutation when using the surprise mulch (provided it's possible). Maybe I should start keeping track of the mutations and give a proper answer...

– Jerry
Jan 29 '14 at 8:56





I'd say that it's hard to tell without being able to see the inners of the game, but I would say that my personal experience has been 50/50 chance of getting a berry mutation, and I've always got berry mutation when using the surprise mulch (provided it's possible). Maybe I should start keeping track of the mutations and give a proper answer...

– Jerry
Jan 29 '14 at 8:56













I think it's more that if Berry A and Berry B won't mutate a new berry, using surprise mulch won't magically force a mutation?

– Gwen
Jan 29 '14 at 17:35





I think it's more that if Berry A and Berry B won't mutate a new berry, using surprise mulch won't magically force a mutation?

– Gwen
Jan 29 '14 at 17:35













@Jerry - Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking was the case. I think if I don't end up getting an answer, I'll be doing the same thing...

– ZAD-Man
Jan 29 '14 at 17:41





@Jerry - Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking was the case. I think if I don't end up getting an answer, I'll be doing the same thing...

– ZAD-Man
Jan 29 '14 at 17:41













@Gwen - That's definitely right. I edited the question a bit to be clearer that I understand that, thanks. :)

– ZAD-Man
Jan 29 '14 at 17:43





@Gwen - That's definitely right. I edited the question a bit to be clearer that I understand that, thanks. :)

– ZAD-Man
Jan 29 '14 at 17:43




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Mutation rate depends on the rarity of the berry. 'Cheaper' berry combos are more likely to give mutations than expensive berries (i.e. the infamous lum berry and its cohorts). Also note that berries obtained from mutation are also capable of mutating, so there's an incredibly large amount of possibilities.

– Pharap
Jul 23 '14 at 5:29





Mutation rate depends on the rarity of the berry. 'Cheaper' berry combos are more likely to give mutations than expensive berries (i.e. the infamous lum berry and its cohorts). Also note that berries obtained from mutation are also capable of mutating, so there's an incredibly large amount of possibilities.

– Pharap
Jul 23 '14 at 5:29










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It appears that surprise/amaze mulch results in around a 50% chance of a berry mutation, assuming the correct berry combinations are planted next to one another. From my own testing without mulch, the chance appears lower, around 20-30%.



The reason why it's not exactly 50% with mulch, is that different types of berries appear to have slight modifiers which affect the chance of a mutation, with the overall effect of making certain mutations "rarer" than others. Wild Bug Pokemon and weeds may also be factored in to the calculation.



Serebii and Bulbapedia simply state that "the chance is increased", which is notable when compared to the explicit information on other types of mulch, for example, Rich Mulch is described on Bulbapedia:




When applied to a Berry patch, increases the final Berry harvest by 2 Berries.




To my knowledge, no source has done extensive enough testing nor dug into the game code (yet) to determine exactly what these berry-type modifiers are.



Sources



  • Personal experience


  • Serebii - Berry Fields

  • Bulbapedia - Berry Mutations

  • Bulbapedia - Mulch

  • PokemonDB





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    I think without the surprise berry mulch it's impossible to get berry mutations at least from my experience and with surprise mulch I think it's 100% that a berry mutation will happen and again at least from my experience.






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      Incorrect. I have obtained mutations numerous times without the surprise mulch.

      – Jerry
      Feb 14 '14 at 19:34






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      Exactly why I said from my experience.

      – TheGameOracle
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      Maybe you would like to support your answer by providing some statistical figures from your experience?

      – Jerry
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    It appears that surprise/amaze mulch results in around a 50% chance of a berry mutation, assuming the correct berry combinations are planted next to one another. From my own testing without mulch, the chance appears lower, around 20-30%.



    The reason why it's not exactly 50% with mulch, is that different types of berries appear to have slight modifiers which affect the chance of a mutation, with the overall effect of making certain mutations "rarer" than others. Wild Bug Pokemon and weeds may also be factored in to the calculation.



    Serebii and Bulbapedia simply state that "the chance is increased", which is notable when compared to the explicit information on other types of mulch, for example, Rich Mulch is described on Bulbapedia:




    When applied to a Berry patch, increases the final Berry harvest by 2 Berries.




    To my knowledge, no source has done extensive enough testing nor dug into the game code (yet) to determine exactly what these berry-type modifiers are.



    Sources



    • Personal experience


    • Serebii - Berry Fields

    • Bulbapedia - Berry Mutations

    • Bulbapedia - Mulch

    • PokemonDB





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      It appears that surprise/amaze mulch results in around a 50% chance of a berry mutation, assuming the correct berry combinations are planted next to one another. From my own testing without mulch, the chance appears lower, around 20-30%.



      The reason why it's not exactly 50% with mulch, is that different types of berries appear to have slight modifiers which affect the chance of a mutation, with the overall effect of making certain mutations "rarer" than others. Wild Bug Pokemon and weeds may also be factored in to the calculation.



      Serebii and Bulbapedia simply state that "the chance is increased", which is notable when compared to the explicit information on other types of mulch, for example, Rich Mulch is described on Bulbapedia:




      When applied to a Berry patch, increases the final Berry harvest by 2 Berries.




      To my knowledge, no source has done extensive enough testing nor dug into the game code (yet) to determine exactly what these berry-type modifiers are.



      Sources



      • Personal experience


      • Serebii - Berry Fields

      • Bulbapedia - Berry Mutations

      • Bulbapedia - Mulch

      • PokemonDB





      share|improve this answer

























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        It appears that surprise/amaze mulch results in around a 50% chance of a berry mutation, assuming the correct berry combinations are planted next to one another. From my own testing without mulch, the chance appears lower, around 20-30%.



        The reason why it's not exactly 50% with mulch, is that different types of berries appear to have slight modifiers which affect the chance of a mutation, with the overall effect of making certain mutations "rarer" than others. Wild Bug Pokemon and weeds may also be factored in to the calculation.



        Serebii and Bulbapedia simply state that "the chance is increased", which is notable when compared to the explicit information on other types of mulch, for example, Rich Mulch is described on Bulbapedia:




        When applied to a Berry patch, increases the final Berry harvest by 2 Berries.




        To my knowledge, no source has done extensive enough testing nor dug into the game code (yet) to determine exactly what these berry-type modifiers are.



        Sources



        • Personal experience


        • Serebii - Berry Fields

        • Bulbapedia - Berry Mutations

        • Bulbapedia - Mulch

        • PokemonDB





        share|improve this answer













        It appears that surprise/amaze mulch results in around a 50% chance of a berry mutation, assuming the correct berry combinations are planted next to one another. From my own testing without mulch, the chance appears lower, around 20-30%.



        The reason why it's not exactly 50% with mulch, is that different types of berries appear to have slight modifiers which affect the chance of a mutation, with the overall effect of making certain mutations "rarer" than others. Wild Bug Pokemon and weeds may also be factored in to the calculation.



        Serebii and Bulbapedia simply state that "the chance is increased", which is notable when compared to the explicit information on other types of mulch, for example, Rich Mulch is described on Bulbapedia:




        When applied to a Berry patch, increases the final Berry harvest by 2 Berries.




        To my knowledge, no source has done extensive enough testing nor dug into the game code (yet) to determine exactly what these berry-type modifiers are.



        Sources



        • Personal experience


        • Serebii - Berry Fields

        • Bulbapedia - Berry Mutations

        • Bulbapedia - Mulch

        • PokemonDB






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            I think without the surprise berry mulch it's impossible to get berry mutations at least from my experience and with surprise mulch I think it's 100% that a berry mutation will happen and again at least from my experience.






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              Incorrect. I have obtained mutations numerous times without the surprise mulch.

              – Jerry
              Feb 14 '14 at 19:34






            • 1





              Exactly why I said from my experience.

              – TheGameOracle
              Feb 17 '14 at 4:08






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              Maybe you would like to support your answer by providing some statistical figures from your experience?

              – Jerry
              Feb 17 '14 at 20:40















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            I think without the surprise berry mulch it's impossible to get berry mutations at least from my experience and with surprise mulch I think it's 100% that a berry mutation will happen and again at least from my experience.






            share|improve this answer


















            • 10





              Incorrect. I have obtained mutations numerous times without the surprise mulch.

              – Jerry
              Feb 14 '14 at 19:34






            • 1





              Exactly why I said from my experience.

              – TheGameOracle
              Feb 17 '14 at 4:08






            • 1





              Maybe you would like to support your answer by providing some statistical figures from your experience?

              – Jerry
              Feb 17 '14 at 20:40













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            -5







            I think without the surprise berry mulch it's impossible to get berry mutations at least from my experience and with surprise mulch I think it's 100% that a berry mutation will happen and again at least from my experience.






            share|improve this answer













            I think without the surprise berry mulch it's impossible to get berry mutations at least from my experience and with surprise mulch I think it's 100% that a berry mutation will happen and again at least from my experience.







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            • 10





              Incorrect. I have obtained mutations numerous times without the surprise mulch.

              – Jerry
              Feb 14 '14 at 19:34






            • 1





              Exactly why I said from my experience.

              – TheGameOracle
              Feb 17 '14 at 4:08






            • 1





              Maybe you would like to support your answer by providing some statistical figures from your experience?

              – Jerry
              Feb 17 '14 at 20:40












            • 10





              Incorrect. I have obtained mutations numerous times without the surprise mulch.

              – Jerry
              Feb 14 '14 at 19:34






            • 1





              Exactly why I said from my experience.

              – TheGameOracle
              Feb 17 '14 at 4:08






            • 1





              Maybe you would like to support your answer by providing some statistical figures from your experience?

              – Jerry
              Feb 17 '14 at 20:40







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            10





            Incorrect. I have obtained mutations numerous times without the surprise mulch.

            – Jerry
            Feb 14 '14 at 19:34





            Incorrect. I have obtained mutations numerous times without the surprise mulch.

            – Jerry
            Feb 14 '14 at 19:34




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            1





            Exactly why I said from my experience.

            – TheGameOracle
            Feb 17 '14 at 4:08





            Exactly why I said from my experience.

            – TheGameOracle
            Feb 17 '14 at 4:08




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            Maybe you would like to support your answer by providing some statistical figures from your experience?

            – Jerry
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            Maybe you would like to support your answer by providing some statistical figures from your experience?

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