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How can I raise concerns with a new DM about XP splitting?
What should a player do if the DM doesn't know the rules?What rewards can compete with experience points?How much do I tell new players about new monsters?How can I slightly raise the CR of an NPC?Can I be a follower of an evil god and not be evil?Can Raise Dead revive a character with zero maximum Hit Points?Splitting Poison Damage with a Shield GuardianHow bad of bodily damage can Raise Dead cure?How can I balance gradual character advancement for new players vs. trying to keep the PCs at a similar level?Can you earn XP for defeating a creature, then raise as undead & destroy it for more XP?Should I continue my campaign after 2 of my players left?
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My wife is new to DMing and D&D as a whole.
We had our first game yesterday and one of my friends raised a concern about how she was awarding XP as she was giving the XP to the person that got the killing blow. He felt, and I agree, that this was unfair to the people playing a support role i.e. our Bard and Druid.
Any suggestions on how I should bring this up without it sounding like a criticism or that I’m trying to take over?
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My wife is new to DMing and D&D as a whole.
We had our first game yesterday and one of my friends raised a concern about how she was awarding XP as she was giving the XP to the person that got the killing blow. He felt, and I agree, that this was unfair to the people playing a support role i.e. our Bard and Druid.
Any suggestions on how I should bring this up without it sounding like a criticism or that I’m trying to take over?
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My wife is new to DMing and D&D as a whole.
We had our first game yesterday and one of my friends raised a concern about how she was awarding XP as she was giving the XP to the person that got the killing blow. He felt, and I agree, that this was unfair to the people playing a support role i.e. our Bard and Druid.
Any suggestions on how I should bring this up without it sounding like a criticism or that I’m trying to take over?
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My wife is new to DMing and D&D as a whole.
We had our first game yesterday and one of my friends raised a concern about how she was awarding XP as she was giving the XP to the person that got the killing blow. He felt, and I agree, that this was unfair to the people playing a support role i.e. our Bard and Druid.
Any suggestions on how I should bring this up without it sounding like a criticism or that I’m trying to take over?
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I'd start by suggesting she review Chapter 8: Running the Game, Experience Points. Hopefully, the part she'll realize what she's doing wrong after reading this:
Each monster has an XP value based on its challenge rating. When adventurers defeat one or more monsters — typically by killing, routing, or capturing them — they divide the total XP value of the monsters evenly among themselves.
More importantly that just dividing up XP evenly, killing a creature is not the only way to gain XP. It should be possible to get XP with no killing at all. That clearly makes it unfair to award it for a kill - the non-lethal contributions can be just as important, if not more important, than raw damage. Unless the enemies are being played as unintelligent bags of blood and loot, it's even possible to win an encounter without killing anybody.
A Question of Fairness
If needed, you could highlight unfairness of XP-to-the-Killer by pointing out a scenario like this: What happens with something like a rogue sneak attack critical hit or a paladin crit smile leaving an enemy with single-digit hit points, and somebody else taking it out? The rogue or paladin did the vast majority of the damage. Why should the last hit point be more important than the thirty, fifty, seventy, or more that came before it?
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Just politely point to the rulebook:
DMG pg 260 (emphasis added):
When adventures defeat one or more monsters ... they divide the total XP value of the monsters evenly among themselves.
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By the Book
I'd start by suggesting she review Chapter 8: Running the Game, Experience Points. Hopefully, the part she'll realize what she's doing wrong after reading this:
Each monster has an XP value based on its challenge rating. When adventurers defeat one or more monsters — typically by killing, routing, or capturing them — they divide the total XP value of the monsters evenly among themselves.
More importantly that just dividing up XP evenly, killing a creature is not the only way to gain XP. It should be possible to get XP with no killing at all. That clearly makes it unfair to award it for a kill - the non-lethal contributions can be just as important, if not more important, than raw damage. Unless the enemies are being played as unintelligent bags of blood and loot, it's even possible to win an encounter without killing anybody.
A Question of Fairness
If needed, you could highlight unfairness of XP-to-the-Killer by pointing out a scenario like this: What happens with something like a rogue sneak attack critical hit or a paladin crit smile leaving an enemy with single-digit hit points, and somebody else taking it out? The rogue or paladin did the vast majority of the damage. Why should the last hit point be more important than the thirty, fifty, seventy, or more that came before it?
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By the Book
I'd start by suggesting she review Chapter 8: Running the Game, Experience Points. Hopefully, the part she'll realize what she's doing wrong after reading this:
Each monster has an XP value based on its challenge rating. When adventurers defeat one or more monsters — typically by killing, routing, or capturing them — they divide the total XP value of the monsters evenly among themselves.
More importantly that just dividing up XP evenly, killing a creature is not the only way to gain XP. It should be possible to get XP with no killing at all. That clearly makes it unfair to award it for a kill - the non-lethal contributions can be just as important, if not more important, than raw damage. Unless the enemies are being played as unintelligent bags of blood and loot, it's even possible to win an encounter without killing anybody.
A Question of Fairness
If needed, you could highlight unfairness of XP-to-the-Killer by pointing out a scenario like this: What happens with something like a rogue sneak attack critical hit or a paladin crit smile leaving an enemy with single-digit hit points, and somebody else taking it out? The rogue or paladin did the vast majority of the damage. Why should the last hit point be more important than the thirty, fifty, seventy, or more that came before it?
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By the Book
I'd start by suggesting she review Chapter 8: Running the Game, Experience Points. Hopefully, the part she'll realize what she's doing wrong after reading this:
Each monster has an XP value based on its challenge rating. When adventurers defeat one or more monsters — typically by killing, routing, or capturing them — they divide the total XP value of the monsters evenly among themselves.
More importantly that just dividing up XP evenly, killing a creature is not the only way to gain XP. It should be possible to get XP with no killing at all. That clearly makes it unfair to award it for a kill - the non-lethal contributions can be just as important, if not more important, than raw damage. Unless the enemies are being played as unintelligent bags of blood and loot, it's even possible to win an encounter without killing anybody.
A Question of Fairness
If needed, you could highlight unfairness of XP-to-the-Killer by pointing out a scenario like this: What happens with something like a rogue sneak attack critical hit or a paladin crit smile leaving an enemy with single-digit hit points, and somebody else taking it out? The rogue or paladin did the vast majority of the damage. Why should the last hit point be more important than the thirty, fifty, seventy, or more that came before it?
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By the Book
I'd start by suggesting she review Chapter 8: Running the Game, Experience Points. Hopefully, the part she'll realize what she's doing wrong after reading this:
Each monster has an XP value based on its challenge rating. When adventurers defeat one or more monsters — typically by killing, routing, or capturing them — they divide the total XP value of the monsters evenly among themselves.
More importantly that just dividing up XP evenly, killing a creature is not the only way to gain XP. It should be possible to get XP with no killing at all. That clearly makes it unfair to award it for a kill - the non-lethal contributions can be just as important, if not more important, than raw damage. Unless the enemies are being played as unintelligent bags of blood and loot, it's even possible to win an encounter without killing anybody.
A Question of Fairness
If needed, you could highlight unfairness of XP-to-the-Killer by pointing out a scenario like this: What happens with something like a rogue sneak attack critical hit or a paladin crit smile leaving an enemy with single-digit hit points, and somebody else taking it out? The rogue or paladin did the vast majority of the damage. Why should the last hit point be more important than the thirty, fifty, seventy, or more that came before it?
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Just politely point to the rulebook:
DMG pg 260 (emphasis added):
When adventures defeat one or more monsters ... they divide the total XP value of the monsters evenly among themselves.
answered 4 hours ago
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@HeyICanChan now tagged and updated, but good point.
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Just politely point to the rulebook:
DMG pg 260 (emphasis added):
When adventures defeat one or more monsters ... they divide the total XP value of the monsters evenly among themselves.
answered 4 hours ago
krbkrb
1,16128
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@HeyICanChan now tagged and updated, but good point.
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Just politely point to the rulebook:
DMG pg 260 (emphasis added):
When adventures defeat one or more monsters ... they divide the total XP value of the monsters evenly among themselves.
answered 4 hours ago
krbkrb
1,16128
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Just politely point to the rulebook:
DMG pg 260 (emphasis added):
When adventures defeat one or more monsters ... they divide the total XP value of the monsters evenly among themselves.
answered 4 hours ago
krbkrb
1,16128
edited 4 hours ago
answered 4 hours ago
krbkrb
1,16128
answered 4 hours ago
krbkrb
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answered 4 hours ago
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@HeyICanChan now tagged and updated, but good point.
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– KorvinStarmast
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@HeyICanChan now tagged and updated, but good point.
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