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Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?Could rockets launched from the ground use wings in the stages?Could a Rotary Rocket charge a super capacitor while descending on Mars?Where are the upper stages for the Voyager/Pioneer stages?Which currently operational orbital launch vehicle achieves highest system-specific impulse?The oldest US space launch vehicles and stages still in useHow could we make a fair comparison between space rockets regarding their payload mass in low Earth orbit and Earth escaping?Would there be any advantages for a rocket with two “half stages”?Could rockets launched from the ground use wings in the stages?Globally extensive overview of rocket startup companiesDoes a high staging number have diminishing returns? Is there a way to address that mathematically?Could a rocket launch off water horizontally in stages us using water and air for lift to save fuel?Why aren't air breathing engines used as small first stages?










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Even if overall design makes a helicopter lifted first stage sensible you still need good energy density (power per KG of energy storage). Super capacitors have a special properties that make them useful but energy density by weight is not one of them.



Going off the linked (and plausibly out of date) table they would need to be ten times better to equal basic Li-ion batteries and a thousand times better to equal jet fuel for a rotor lifted first stage.



One application that is worth watching for high density/high discharge rate electrical power is with turbo pumps, as per Electron where electric drive offers some advantages over the design complexity/cost inherent in combustion driven pumps.






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    Even if overall design makes a helicopter lifted first stage sensible you still need good energy density (power per KG of energy storage). Super capacitors have a special properties that make them useful but energy density by weight is not one of them.



    Going off the linked (and plausibly out of date) table they would need to be ten times better to equal basic Li-ion batteries and a thousand times better to equal jet fuel for a rotor lifted first stage.



    One application that is worth watching for high density/high discharge rate electrical power is with turbo pumps, as per Electron where electric drive offers some advantages over the design complexity/cost inherent in combustion driven pumps.






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      Even if overall design makes a helicopter lifted first stage sensible you still need good energy density (power per KG of energy storage). Super capacitors have a special properties that make them useful but energy density by weight is not one of them.



      Going off the linked (and plausibly out of date) table they would need to be ten times better to equal basic Li-ion batteries and a thousand times better to equal jet fuel for a rotor lifted first stage.



      One application that is worth watching for high density/high discharge rate electrical power is with turbo pumps, as per Electron where electric drive offers some advantages over the design complexity/cost inherent in combustion driven pumps.






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        Even if overall design makes a helicopter lifted first stage sensible you still need good energy density (power per KG of energy storage). Super capacitors have a special properties that make them useful but energy density by weight is not one of them.



        Going off the linked (and plausibly out of date) table they would need to be ten times better to equal basic Li-ion batteries and a thousand times better to equal jet fuel for a rotor lifted first stage.



        One application that is worth watching for high density/high discharge rate electrical power is with turbo pumps, as per Electron where electric drive offers some advantages over the design complexity/cost inherent in combustion driven pumps.






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        Even if overall design makes a helicopter lifted first stage sensible you still need good energy density (power per KG of energy storage). Super capacitors have a special properties that make them useful but energy density by weight is not one of them.



        Going off the linked (and plausibly out of date) table they would need to be ten times better to equal basic Li-ion batteries and a thousand times better to equal jet fuel for a rotor lifted first stage.



        One application that is worth watching for high density/high discharge rate electrical power is with turbo pumps, as per Electron where electric drive offers some advantages over the design complexity/cost inherent in combustion driven pumps.







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