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How did Beeri the Hittite come up with naming his daughter Yehudit?
The Next CEO of Stack OverflowWhere did the Plishtim (Philistines) come from?Why would anyone name their daughter Yehudis? The first one vexed Isaac and RebeccaNaming after someone with added namesSource of the name Achira - What did עינן have against his brother?Why doesn't Yitzchak chastise Avimelech about the wells the way his father did?Is there a halachic prohibition with naming a child Iyov?How did Paro's daughter explain suddenly having a child?Naming [most] of the 7 nations within ה and יDifferent methods of naming the 70 nationsHow did Adam got his intellect?
וַיְהִי עֵשָׂו בֶּן־אַרְבָּעִים שָׁנָה וַיִּקַּח אִשָּׁה אֶת־יְהוּדִית בַּת־בְּאֵרִי הַחִתִּי
וְאֶת־בָּשְׂמַת בַּת־אֵילֹן הַחִתִּי׃
When Esau was forty years old, he took to wife Judith daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Basemath daughter of Elon the Hittite; (Gen 26)
The Hittites were "intrinsically" bad guys, one of the 7 "bad" nations. How did he take the "most Jewish" name that Leah used to thank G-d for her 4th son?
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וַיְהִי עֵשָׂו בֶּן־אַרְבָּעִים שָׁנָה וַיִּקַּח אִשָּׁה אֶת־יְהוּדִית בַּת־בְּאֵרִי הַחִתִּי
וְאֶת־בָּשְׂמַת בַּת־אֵילֹן הַחִתִּי׃
When Esau was forty years old, he took to wife Judith daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Basemath daughter of Elon the Hittite; (Gen 26)
The Hittites were "intrinsically" bad guys, one of the 7 "bad" nations. How did he take the "most Jewish" name that Leah used to thank G-d for her 4th son?
parshanut-torah-comment names parashat-toldot
jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/esau-wives-of-midrash-and-aggadah
– rosends
3 hours ago
@rosends nothing on Yehudit as I can see...
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
1
R. Dovid Tzvi Hoffman seems to agree with your question: יהודית – כמו יהודה שם שמציאותו אצל בני חת מעוררת תמיהה
– Alex
3 hours ago
@AlBerko that article (and the answer below) indicates that Beeri isn't the one who came up with the name.
– rosends
2 hours ago
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וַיְהִי עֵשָׂו בֶּן־אַרְבָּעִים שָׁנָה וַיִּקַּח אִשָּׁה אֶת־יְהוּדִית בַּת־בְּאֵרִי הַחִתִּי
וְאֶת־בָּשְׂמַת בַּת־אֵילֹן הַחִתִּי׃
When Esau was forty years old, he took to wife Judith daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Basemath daughter of Elon the Hittite; (Gen 26)
The Hittites were "intrinsically" bad guys, one of the 7 "bad" nations. How did he take the "most Jewish" name that Leah used to thank G-d for her 4th son?
parshanut-torah-comment names parashat-toldot
וַיְהִי עֵשָׂו בֶּן־אַרְבָּעִים שָׁנָה וַיִּקַּח אִשָּׁה אֶת־יְהוּדִית בַּת־בְּאֵרִי הַחִתִּי
וְאֶת־בָּשְׂמַת בַּת־אֵילֹן הַחִתִּי׃
When Esau was forty years old, he took to wife Judith daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Basemath daughter of Elon the Hittite; (Gen 26)
The Hittites were "intrinsically" bad guys, one of the 7 "bad" nations. How did he take the "most Jewish" name that Leah used to thank G-d for her 4th son?
parshanut-torah-comment names parashat-toldot
parshanut-torah-comment names parashat-toldot
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jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/esau-wives-of-midrash-and-aggadah
– rosends
3 hours ago
@rosends nothing on Yehudit as I can see...
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
1
R. Dovid Tzvi Hoffman seems to agree with your question: יהודית – כמו יהודה שם שמציאותו אצל בני חת מעוררת תמיהה
– Alex
3 hours ago
@AlBerko that article (and the answer below) indicates that Beeri isn't the one who came up with the name.
– rosends
2 hours ago
add a comment |
jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/esau-wives-of-midrash-and-aggadah
– rosends
3 hours ago
@rosends nothing on Yehudit as I can see...
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
1
R. Dovid Tzvi Hoffman seems to agree with your question: יהודית – כמו יהודה שם שמציאותו אצל בני חת מעוררת תמיהה
– Alex
3 hours ago
@AlBerko that article (and the answer below) indicates that Beeri isn't the one who came up with the name.
– rosends
2 hours ago
jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/esau-wives-of-midrash-and-aggadah
– rosends
3 hours ago
jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/esau-wives-of-midrash-and-aggadah
– rosends
3 hours ago
@rosends nothing on Yehudit as I can see...
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
@rosends nothing on Yehudit as I can see...
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
1
1
R. Dovid Tzvi Hoffman seems to agree with your question: יהודית – כמו יהודה שם שמציאותו אצל בני חת מעוררת תמיהה
– Alex
3 hours ago
R. Dovid Tzvi Hoffman seems to agree with your question: יהודית – כמו יהודה שם שמציאותו אצל בני חת מעוררת תמיהה
– Alex
3 hours ago
@AlBerko that article (and the answer below) indicates that Beeri isn't the one who came up with the name.
– rosends
2 hours ago
@AlBerko that article (and the answer below) indicates that Beeri isn't the one who came up with the name.
– rosends
2 hours ago
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Rashi in Bereishis 35,2 says that her real name (presumably her father called her) was Oholivomo but the Torah calls her Yehudis because she denied Idol worship and believed in One G-d. Eisav knew his father appreciated this so he married her using her as cover for his bad behavior:
אהליבמה. הִיא יְהוּדִית, וְהוּא כִנָּה שְׁמָהּ יְהוּדִית לוֹמַר שֶׁהִיא כּוֹפֶרֶת בַּעֲ"זָ כְּדֵי לְהַטְעוֹת אֶת אָבִיו:
1. I thought Oholovomo is for her idolatry (see robev's link in comments)? 2. Yehudis after whom, probably should be called Abrahamit?
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
1
This answer could be improved by citing Megillah 13a, that whoever denies idolatry is called a Yehudi(s).
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. Notably, Robev's link cites most of its claims, except for that one. 2. See my comment above.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@DonielF 1. Funny, Yehuda himself wasn't called so... 2. Why then Avraham was called Ivri everywhere?
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. That's a question on the Gemara; why don't you ask it? 2. If you're referring to the interpretation in the Midrash that Avraham was on one side and the rest of the world on the other, ideologically speaking, Avraham was on a completely different plane than simple rejection of idolatry. He wasn't just clinging to Hashem; he was the first to discover Him on his own, and he was the first willing to give his life for him.
– DonielF
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Rashi in Bereishis 35,2 says that her real name (presumably her father called her) was Oholivomo but the Torah calls her Yehudis because she denied Idol worship and believed in One G-d. Eisav knew his father appreciated this so he married her using her as cover for his bad behavior:
אהליבמה. הִיא יְהוּדִית, וְהוּא כִנָּה שְׁמָהּ יְהוּדִית לוֹמַר שֶׁהִיא כּוֹפֶרֶת בַּעֲ"זָ כְּדֵי לְהַטְעוֹת אֶת אָבִיו:
1. I thought Oholovomo is for her idolatry (see robev's link in comments)? 2. Yehudis after whom, probably should be called Abrahamit?
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
1
This answer could be improved by citing Megillah 13a, that whoever denies idolatry is called a Yehudi(s).
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. Notably, Robev's link cites most of its claims, except for that one. 2. See my comment above.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@DonielF 1. Funny, Yehuda himself wasn't called so... 2. Why then Avraham was called Ivri everywhere?
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. That's a question on the Gemara; why don't you ask it? 2. If you're referring to the interpretation in the Midrash that Avraham was on one side and the rest of the world on the other, ideologically speaking, Avraham was on a completely different plane than simple rejection of idolatry. He wasn't just clinging to Hashem; he was the first to discover Him on his own, and he was the first willing to give his life for him.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
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Rashi in Bereishis 35,2 says that her real name (presumably her father called her) was Oholivomo but the Torah calls her Yehudis because she denied Idol worship and believed in One G-d. Eisav knew his father appreciated this so he married her using her as cover for his bad behavior:
אהליבמה. הִיא יְהוּדִית, וְהוּא כִנָּה שְׁמָהּ יְהוּדִית לוֹמַר שֶׁהִיא כּוֹפֶרֶת בַּעֲ"זָ כְּדֵי לְהַטְעוֹת אֶת אָבִיו:
1. I thought Oholovomo is for her idolatry (see robev's link in comments)? 2. Yehudis after whom, probably should be called Abrahamit?
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
1
This answer could be improved by citing Megillah 13a, that whoever denies idolatry is called a Yehudi(s).
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. Notably, Robev's link cites most of its claims, except for that one. 2. See my comment above.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@DonielF 1. Funny, Yehuda himself wasn't called so... 2. Why then Avraham was called Ivri everywhere?
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. That's a question on the Gemara; why don't you ask it? 2. If you're referring to the interpretation in the Midrash that Avraham was on one side and the rest of the world on the other, ideologically speaking, Avraham was on a completely different plane than simple rejection of idolatry. He wasn't just clinging to Hashem; he was the first to discover Him on his own, and he was the first willing to give his life for him.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
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Rashi in Bereishis 35,2 says that her real name (presumably her father called her) was Oholivomo but the Torah calls her Yehudis because she denied Idol worship and believed in One G-d. Eisav knew his father appreciated this so he married her using her as cover for his bad behavior:
אהליבמה. הִיא יְהוּדִית, וְהוּא כִנָּה שְׁמָהּ יְהוּדִית לוֹמַר שֶׁהִיא כּוֹפֶרֶת בַּעֲ"זָ כְּדֵי לְהַטְעוֹת אֶת אָבִיו:
Rashi in Bereishis 35,2 says that her real name (presumably her father called her) was Oholivomo but the Torah calls her Yehudis because she denied Idol worship and believed in One G-d. Eisav knew his father appreciated this so he married her using her as cover for his bad behavior:
אהליבמה. הִיא יְהוּדִית, וְהוּא כִנָּה שְׁמָהּ יְהוּדִית לוֹמַר שֶׁהִיא כּוֹפֶרֶת בַּעֲ"זָ כְּדֵי לְהַטְעוֹת אֶת אָבִיו:
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1. I thought Oholovomo is for her idolatry (see robev's link in comments)? 2. Yehudis after whom, probably should be called Abrahamit?
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
1
This answer could be improved by citing Megillah 13a, that whoever denies idolatry is called a Yehudi(s).
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. Notably, Robev's link cites most of its claims, except for that one. 2. See my comment above.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@DonielF 1. Funny, Yehuda himself wasn't called so... 2. Why then Avraham was called Ivri everywhere?
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. That's a question on the Gemara; why don't you ask it? 2. If you're referring to the interpretation in the Midrash that Avraham was on one side and the rest of the world on the other, ideologically speaking, Avraham was on a completely different plane than simple rejection of idolatry. He wasn't just clinging to Hashem; he was the first to discover Him on his own, and he was the first willing to give his life for him.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
1. I thought Oholovomo is for her idolatry (see robev's link in comments)? 2. Yehudis after whom, probably should be called Abrahamit?
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
1
This answer could be improved by citing Megillah 13a, that whoever denies idolatry is called a Yehudi(s).
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. Notably, Robev's link cites most of its claims, except for that one. 2. See my comment above.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@DonielF 1. Funny, Yehuda himself wasn't called so... 2. Why then Avraham was called Ivri everywhere?
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. That's a question on the Gemara; why don't you ask it? 2. If you're referring to the interpretation in the Midrash that Avraham was on one side and the rest of the world on the other, ideologically speaking, Avraham was on a completely different plane than simple rejection of idolatry. He wasn't just clinging to Hashem; he was the first to discover Him on his own, and he was the first willing to give his life for him.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
1. I thought Oholovomo is for her idolatry (see robev's link in comments)? 2. Yehudis after whom, probably should be called Abrahamit?
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
1. I thought Oholovomo is for her idolatry (see robev's link in comments)? 2. Yehudis after whom, probably should be called Abrahamit?
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
1
1
This answer could be improved by citing Megillah 13a, that whoever denies idolatry is called a Yehudi(s).
– DonielF
2 hours ago
This answer could be improved by citing Megillah 13a, that whoever denies idolatry is called a Yehudi(s).
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. Notably, Robev's link cites most of its claims, except for that one. 2. See my comment above.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. Notably, Robev's link cites most of its claims, except for that one. 2. See my comment above.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@DonielF 1. Funny, Yehuda himself wasn't called so... 2. Why then Avraham was called Ivri everywhere?
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@DonielF 1. Funny, Yehuda himself wasn't called so... 2. Why then Avraham was called Ivri everywhere?
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. That's a question on the Gemara; why don't you ask it? 2. If you're referring to the interpretation in the Midrash that Avraham was on one side and the rest of the world on the other, ideologically speaking, Avraham was on a completely different plane than simple rejection of idolatry. He wasn't just clinging to Hashem; he was the first to discover Him on his own, and he was the first willing to give his life for him.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
@AlBerko 1. That's a question on the Gemara; why don't you ask it? 2. If you're referring to the interpretation in the Midrash that Avraham was on one side and the rest of the world on the other, ideologically speaking, Avraham was on a completely different plane than simple rejection of idolatry. He wasn't just clinging to Hashem; he was the first to discover Him on his own, and he was the first willing to give his life for him.
– DonielF
2 hours ago
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jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/esau-wives-of-midrash-and-aggadah
– rosends
3 hours ago
@rosends nothing on Yehudit as I can see...
– Al Berko
3 hours ago
1
R. Dovid Tzvi Hoffman seems to agree with your question: יהודית – כמו יהודה שם שמציאותו אצל בני חת מעוררת תמיהה
– Alex
3 hours ago
@AlBerko that article (and the answer below) indicates that Beeri isn't the one who came up with the name.
– rosends
2 hours ago