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Most of the time, using a biotic charge into a group of enemies gets me riddled with bullets extremely fast, what are some ways I can improve survivability and/or effectiveness with this skill?
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Most of the time, using a biotic charge into a group of enemies gets me riddled with bullets extremely fast, what are some ways I can improve survivability and/or effectiveness with this skill?
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Once More Unto the Breach!
Or, A Young Vanguard's Primer on the Proper Disregard for Personal Safety
The first lesson to properly using Charge is to Upgrade Charge. The ability really feels very weak at low ranks because it's not until you've upgraded it that you get the tools you need to survive its usage. At low levels, Charge is basically a finishing move. You can use it to pick off isolated foes who have cut themselves off from their allies, or to reposition Shepard into a new strategic spot from which to take cover. Both of those are very good ways to use Charge throughout the game, but it's not until you've picked up a couple of ranks that you can use Charge with abandon. In particular, Rank 2, which reduces the recharge time by 25%, and Rank 6, which gives Charge a 25% chance to not trigger a cooldown, or adds a substantial boost to your shields after charging are really really important.
The second lesson to properly using Charge is, like Alec Baldwin says, to A. B. C. Always Be Charging. If Charge isn't on cooldown, and you aren't in cover, you're dead. If Charge is on cooldown, it's because you've just charged, which reset your shields to full and knocked whatever you charged at into the air. Your goal, in the time between Charging and the cooldown on Charge ending, is to kill whatever you charged at, and then either get to cover, or pick a new target to Charge at. This is where upgrading to Rank 2 comes in, as does managing your weight capacity. Travel light to minimize your power recharge time. As a Vanguard, you'll primarily be relying on your Biotic Powers, your Melee attacks, and a trusty Shotgun - don't bother trying to haul around an Assault or Sniper Rifle, and you could make a convincing case for even skipping an SMG or Pistol once you get the hang of things - who needs more ways to shoot things when you can ram your fist into their face at the speed of sound?
The third lesson to properly using Charge is Pick Your Targets. As noted above, early on, you'll primarily want to use Charge on three types of targets: Enemies occupying strong defensive positions that you would rather have for yourself; Enemies that have cut themselves off from their allies and whom you can pick off while your squad mates keep their friends busy; and the last few enemies from a large group once you've thinned their ranks a bit. As you get better at Charging, you'll learn to spot enemies standing on the 'wrong' side of cover which you can use while waiting on your Charge cooldown, as well as which enemies can be killed within the stagger of a well placed Charge->Nova->Melee or Charge->Shotgun to the Face combo.
The fourth lesson to getting the most out of getting up in your opponents' faces is Combine Your Powers. Like the Planeteers, you are at your best when your squad uses their powers to support you. A well placed Singularity from Liara can present you with a field of unwitting chumps to Charge into and punch repeatedly into submission. A properly timed Sabotage can leave a clump of Synthetic foes fighting amongst themselves while you wreak havoc. Other squadmates can send out Decoys or Combat Drones that can draw fire while you Charge in. The longer it takes your opponents to realize that you are what they need to be shooting at, the less time they will spend shooting you before Charge comes off cooldown and you can recharge your shields.
The fifth lesson is Detonate! Charge is a universal Detonator. What does that mean? That means that if you can land a killing blow with Charge on a target suffering from any debuff, it will cause an explosion doing massive damage to nearby enemies. Better yet, if you do it to a frozen foe, or one that's on fire, you'll cause everyone nearby to freeze or catch fire. And when a Cerberus Merc is on fire, he isn't shooting at you. When a Geth Trooper is frozen, he'll shatter from the next shot he takes. Charging into a target stunned by Overload or Disruptor ammo will do large amounts of damage to other shielded foes in the area. Comboing with other biotic and tech powers is particularly handy for two reasons; first off, Biotic + Biotic and Biotic + Tech combos don't need to be a killing blow to detonate. Even better, as a Vanguard, you can invest one talent point into Pull to start the chain reaction yourself, meaning you don't even need to rely on your squad. Still, don't rule out the value of Cryo and Fire explosions - the former is quite easy to set up yourself thanks to Cryo Ammo. Better yet, take the Squad Ammo upgrade, and let your allies set up Cryo explosions for you. Every frozen opponent you kill with charge will freeze all of it's allies nearby!
The sixth lesson is Get in Fast. One of the biggest disadvantages of Charge is that it sends you right into the enemies face, all the way on the opposite side of the battlefield. Unfortunately, if they've fortified themselves, taken cover, and spread out, getting in one bad dudes face means there's probably six others taking potshots at your back. But!, One of the biggest advantages of Charge is that it sends you right into the enemies face, all the way on the opposite side of the battlefield. And if you do it before they have a chance to take cover, you can wreak havoc. Groups of AI enemies do tend to start out with a 'plan' - the game tends to give them pretty good defensive positions to work with, and the AI knows about them. But no plan survives contact with the enemy, and what is Charge but very forceful contact with the enemy? Combined with a well placed primer like Singularity or Overload from an ally, you can hit an entire squad of opponents as they come down from a dropship or in a narrow chokepoint before they reach cover. This is devastating.
The final lesson you need to learn with Charge is to Finish What You Start. Very few foes should be able to survive a Charge combo. If most of your foes are surviving it, you should probably work on softening them up a bit more from range before Charging in. Whether you prefer to follow up your Charges with Shotgun blasts, Melee attacks, or Biotic Powers (particularly Nova) is up to you, and will determine how you upgrade the power, but the key is that after Charging at an opponent (or group of opponents), you should have a plan in place to dispose of them or get to safety after having done your damage. I find it's really helpful to slam on the Shift key just as my Charge makes impact to take a moment to aim, assess my available targets and cover opportunities, and plan my next few seconds of action until Charge comes off cooldown again.
Beyond that, it's really just a matter of practice, levelling up for more Charge upgrades, and buying whatever passive defense upgrades - particularly to shield strength - you can get your hands on. The stronger your barrier, the stronger your Novas, and the longer you'll last between Charges, so anything that improves Shepard's Shields is a very good investment for a Vanguard.
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Is charging in and getting the hell out of there an option? I'm finding it hard to use charge and get back to safe cover even when I kill my targets.
– Ben Brocka
Mar 9 '12 at 1:12
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I would have upvoted this based on the subtitle alone.
– Steve V.
Mar 18 '12 at 4:05
I... I might roll a Vanguard, now that I know these things.
– jordie3000
May 12 '12 at 2:35
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Biotic Charge and Nova don't share a cooldown. While the thought of spending your shields in the middle of a group of enemies might not sound... sane at first glance, the important thing is that it knocks back and staggers enemies, leaving them prime targets for a heavy melee, or giving you time to jump into cover.
Alternatively, you might want to use biotic charge to flee - It's pretty handy for zipping around the battlefield, and if you spot an isolated enemy unit, and you can charge over to them, you've just restored your barrier and get out of the main crossfire.
The biggest advantage charging gives you is the shield replenish. This means that any time you improve your total shields, you're also giving Biotic Charge a small boost.
Honestly, the biggest problem is that you shouldn't be charging into large groups in the first place. Use it as a dueling skill against smaller numbers of enemies, and you might find yourself living much longer.
I had trouble figuring out how to use it effectively in 2, but once I did, playing my Vanguard became a ton of fun, even on Insanity. I spend the majority of fights in the red warning stage of health, but I just keep hammering Charge+Shotgun+Melee+frantically hammering Charge's hotkey til it was off CD again, and it was glorious.
– FAE
Mar 6 '12 at 13:28
Unlike in ME2, you should ALWAYS charge into groups first. For example, you charge into a group consisting of 1 Marauder and 5 Cannibals. It doesn't matter which one you charge, just charge the one in the center. Charge(radius charge being the better one), then Nova(radius+half cost one). With rank 6 Nova upgrade and usual armor/upgrade setup, the Marauder's shield is now vaporized. Pull a cannibal flying around, charge. Nothing survives within the Biotic Detonation radius, especially the Marauder who was the closest to you thanks to the vaporized shield he really needed to survive.
– Jake 'Alquimista' LEE
Apr 3 '12 at 4:02
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Charging is just OP with the right setup. I only carry a pistol into battle (giving me 200% power recharge), along with a full set of melee damage gear + weapon blades. Couple that with the perks in both charge and nova that increase cooldown speed, as well as recharging shields to 100% on a successful charge, I'm able to spam charge and nova without too much worry on taking damage. I can melee a geth prime like nothing. Charge, punch, nova, repeat. I teleport around the battlefield like Goku on crack.
+1, after playing around with just carrying a pistol, this quickly became very OP even on hardcore difficulty.
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Mar 8 '12 at 22:36
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You can even finish insanity without any weapon at all. Charge/Nova combo is somewhat overpowered IMO. Just take energy drain - another overpowered skill - as the bonus power.
While shotguns are extremely cool, they are too unforgiving. The best weapon setup is Tempest(magazine+barrel/heat mod) + Vindicator(armor piercing+barrel/stability mod) IMO
You get them very early in the game(Vindicator on Mars, Tempest on Tuchanka rescuing Lt Victus), and when both are upgraded to level 5, you don't even have to pick the weight capacity passive upgrade in order to retain 200% cooldown boost.
Equip Tempest, hold fire button and tap Nova hotkey while charging, if Nova is pulled out upon impact, fine, if not, the charged one will eat all the bullets, unlike any shotgun that requires aiming.
If you encounter Brutes/Banshees, switch to Vindicator. You will be surprised how fast they go down.
And yes, I'm talking about insanity.
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As a vanguard, charge is your go to. If you find yourself up against a group of enemies a fair bit away, and they don't have any ranged support (e.g turret, atlas etc) charge + nova + Heavy melee + Shotgun = many dead. Against single units, its incredibly useful, and provides both a barrier recharge and a possible escape route. Surprisingly, it also works against heavy units, such as atlases or brutes, even on higher difficulties. Against an atlas - Charge, heavy melee, roll back, maybe a shotgun blast, repeat. Against brutes - charge, roll to the side, shotgun, roll away, charge, repeat. It's extremely versatile.
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Fyi, you can also press fire while you charge, like this you weapon shot directly in target body after charging. Vs armor + cryo ammo, mixed with the kaidan cryo blast and warp from liara you weaken theorically the armor from 50% to 100%, doing this in combo give a devastating combination. You can also press F (on PC) to do a melee directly after charging.
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Once More Unto the Breach!
Or, A Young Vanguard's Primer on the Proper Disregard for Personal Safety
The first lesson to properly using Charge is to Upgrade Charge. The ability really feels very weak at low ranks because it's not until you've upgraded it that you get the tools you need to survive its usage. At low levels, Charge is basically a finishing move. You can use it to pick off isolated foes who have cut themselves off from their allies, or to reposition Shepard into a new strategic spot from which to take cover. Both of those are very good ways to use Charge throughout the game, but it's not until you've picked up a couple of ranks that you can use Charge with abandon. In particular, Rank 2, which reduces the recharge time by 25%, and Rank 6, which gives Charge a 25% chance to not trigger a cooldown, or adds a substantial boost to your shields after charging are really really important.
The second lesson to properly using Charge is, like Alec Baldwin says, to A. B. C. Always Be Charging. If Charge isn't on cooldown, and you aren't in cover, you're dead. If Charge is on cooldown, it's because you've just charged, which reset your shields to full and knocked whatever you charged at into the air. Your goal, in the time between Charging and the cooldown on Charge ending, is to kill whatever you charged at, and then either get to cover, or pick a new target to Charge at. This is where upgrading to Rank 2 comes in, as does managing your weight capacity. Travel light to minimize your power recharge time. As a Vanguard, you'll primarily be relying on your Biotic Powers, your Melee attacks, and a trusty Shotgun - don't bother trying to haul around an Assault or Sniper Rifle, and you could make a convincing case for even skipping an SMG or Pistol once you get the hang of things - who needs more ways to shoot things when you can ram your fist into their face at the speed of sound?
The third lesson to properly using Charge is Pick Your Targets. As noted above, early on, you'll primarily want to use Charge on three types of targets: Enemies occupying strong defensive positions that you would rather have for yourself; Enemies that have cut themselves off from their allies and whom you can pick off while your squad mates keep their friends busy; and the last few enemies from a large group once you've thinned their ranks a bit. As you get better at Charging, you'll learn to spot enemies standing on the 'wrong' side of cover which you can use while waiting on your Charge cooldown, as well as which enemies can be killed within the stagger of a well placed Charge->Nova->Melee or Charge->Shotgun to the Face combo.
The fourth lesson to getting the most out of getting up in your opponents' faces is Combine Your Powers. Like the Planeteers, you are at your best when your squad uses their powers to support you. A well placed Singularity from Liara can present you with a field of unwitting chumps to Charge into and punch repeatedly into submission. A properly timed Sabotage can leave a clump of Synthetic foes fighting amongst themselves while you wreak havoc. Other squadmates can send out Decoys or Combat Drones that can draw fire while you Charge in. The longer it takes your opponents to realize that you are what they need to be shooting at, the less time they will spend shooting you before Charge comes off cooldown and you can recharge your shields.
The fifth lesson is Detonate! Charge is a universal Detonator. What does that mean? That means that if you can land a killing blow with Charge on a target suffering from any debuff, it will cause an explosion doing massive damage to nearby enemies. Better yet, if you do it to a frozen foe, or one that's on fire, you'll cause everyone nearby to freeze or catch fire. And when a Cerberus Merc is on fire, he isn't shooting at you. When a Geth Trooper is frozen, he'll shatter from the next shot he takes. Charging into a target stunned by Overload or Disruptor ammo will do large amounts of damage to other shielded foes in the area. Comboing with other biotic and tech powers is particularly handy for two reasons; first off, Biotic + Biotic and Biotic + Tech combos don't need to be a killing blow to detonate. Even better, as a Vanguard, you can invest one talent point into Pull to start the chain reaction yourself, meaning you don't even need to rely on your squad. Still, don't rule out the value of Cryo and Fire explosions - the former is quite easy to set up yourself thanks to Cryo Ammo. Better yet, take the Squad Ammo upgrade, and let your allies set up Cryo explosions for you. Every frozen opponent you kill with charge will freeze all of it's allies nearby!
The sixth lesson is Get in Fast. One of the biggest disadvantages of Charge is that it sends you right into the enemies face, all the way on the opposite side of the battlefield. Unfortunately, if they've fortified themselves, taken cover, and spread out, getting in one bad dudes face means there's probably six others taking potshots at your back. But!, One of the biggest advantages of Charge is that it sends you right into the enemies face, all the way on the opposite side of the battlefield. And if you do it before they have a chance to take cover, you can wreak havoc. Groups of AI enemies do tend to start out with a 'plan' - the game tends to give them pretty good defensive positions to work with, and the AI knows about them. But no plan survives contact with the enemy, and what is Charge but very forceful contact with the enemy? Combined with a well placed primer like Singularity or Overload from an ally, you can hit an entire squad of opponents as they come down from a dropship or in a narrow chokepoint before they reach cover. This is devastating.
The final lesson you need to learn with Charge is to Finish What You Start. Very few foes should be able to survive a Charge combo. If most of your foes are surviving it, you should probably work on softening them up a bit more from range before Charging in. Whether you prefer to follow up your Charges with Shotgun blasts, Melee attacks, or Biotic Powers (particularly Nova) is up to you, and will determine how you upgrade the power, but the key is that after Charging at an opponent (or group of opponents), you should have a plan in place to dispose of them or get to safety after having done your damage. I find it's really helpful to slam on the Shift key just as my Charge makes impact to take a moment to aim, assess my available targets and cover opportunities, and plan my next few seconds of action until Charge comes off cooldown again.
Beyond that, it's really just a matter of practice, levelling up for more Charge upgrades, and buying whatever passive defense upgrades - particularly to shield strength - you can get your hands on. The stronger your barrier, the stronger your Novas, and the longer you'll last between Charges, so anything that improves Shepard's Shields is a very good investment for a Vanguard.
1
Is charging in and getting the hell out of there an option? I'm finding it hard to use charge and get back to safe cover even when I kill my targets.
– Ben Brocka
Mar 9 '12 at 1:12
2
I would have upvoted this based on the subtitle alone.
– Steve V.
Mar 18 '12 at 4:05
I... I might roll a Vanguard, now that I know these things.
– jordie3000
May 12 '12 at 2:35
add a comment |
Once More Unto the Breach!
Or, A Young Vanguard's Primer on the Proper Disregard for Personal Safety
The first lesson to properly using Charge is to Upgrade Charge. The ability really feels very weak at low ranks because it's not until you've upgraded it that you get the tools you need to survive its usage. At low levels, Charge is basically a finishing move. You can use it to pick off isolated foes who have cut themselves off from their allies, or to reposition Shepard into a new strategic spot from which to take cover. Both of those are very good ways to use Charge throughout the game, but it's not until you've picked up a couple of ranks that you can use Charge with abandon. In particular, Rank 2, which reduces the recharge time by 25%, and Rank 6, which gives Charge a 25% chance to not trigger a cooldown, or adds a substantial boost to your shields after charging are really really important.
The second lesson to properly using Charge is, like Alec Baldwin says, to A. B. C. Always Be Charging. If Charge isn't on cooldown, and you aren't in cover, you're dead. If Charge is on cooldown, it's because you've just charged, which reset your shields to full and knocked whatever you charged at into the air. Your goal, in the time between Charging and the cooldown on Charge ending, is to kill whatever you charged at, and then either get to cover, or pick a new target to Charge at. This is where upgrading to Rank 2 comes in, as does managing your weight capacity. Travel light to minimize your power recharge time. As a Vanguard, you'll primarily be relying on your Biotic Powers, your Melee attacks, and a trusty Shotgun - don't bother trying to haul around an Assault or Sniper Rifle, and you could make a convincing case for even skipping an SMG or Pistol once you get the hang of things - who needs more ways to shoot things when you can ram your fist into their face at the speed of sound?
The third lesson to properly using Charge is Pick Your Targets. As noted above, early on, you'll primarily want to use Charge on three types of targets: Enemies occupying strong defensive positions that you would rather have for yourself; Enemies that have cut themselves off from their allies and whom you can pick off while your squad mates keep their friends busy; and the last few enemies from a large group once you've thinned their ranks a bit. As you get better at Charging, you'll learn to spot enemies standing on the 'wrong' side of cover which you can use while waiting on your Charge cooldown, as well as which enemies can be killed within the stagger of a well placed Charge->Nova->Melee or Charge->Shotgun to the Face combo.
The fourth lesson to getting the most out of getting up in your opponents' faces is Combine Your Powers. Like the Planeteers, you are at your best when your squad uses their powers to support you. A well placed Singularity from Liara can present you with a field of unwitting chumps to Charge into and punch repeatedly into submission. A properly timed Sabotage can leave a clump of Synthetic foes fighting amongst themselves while you wreak havoc. Other squadmates can send out Decoys or Combat Drones that can draw fire while you Charge in. The longer it takes your opponents to realize that you are what they need to be shooting at, the less time they will spend shooting you before Charge comes off cooldown and you can recharge your shields.
The fifth lesson is Detonate! Charge is a universal Detonator. What does that mean? That means that if you can land a killing blow with Charge on a target suffering from any debuff, it will cause an explosion doing massive damage to nearby enemies. Better yet, if you do it to a frozen foe, or one that's on fire, you'll cause everyone nearby to freeze or catch fire. And when a Cerberus Merc is on fire, he isn't shooting at you. When a Geth Trooper is frozen, he'll shatter from the next shot he takes. Charging into a target stunned by Overload or Disruptor ammo will do large amounts of damage to other shielded foes in the area. Comboing with other biotic and tech powers is particularly handy for two reasons; first off, Biotic + Biotic and Biotic + Tech combos don't need to be a killing blow to detonate. Even better, as a Vanguard, you can invest one talent point into Pull to start the chain reaction yourself, meaning you don't even need to rely on your squad. Still, don't rule out the value of Cryo and Fire explosions - the former is quite easy to set up yourself thanks to Cryo Ammo. Better yet, take the Squad Ammo upgrade, and let your allies set up Cryo explosions for you. Every frozen opponent you kill with charge will freeze all of it's allies nearby!
The sixth lesson is Get in Fast. One of the biggest disadvantages of Charge is that it sends you right into the enemies face, all the way on the opposite side of the battlefield. Unfortunately, if they've fortified themselves, taken cover, and spread out, getting in one bad dudes face means there's probably six others taking potshots at your back. But!, One of the biggest advantages of Charge is that it sends you right into the enemies face, all the way on the opposite side of the battlefield. And if you do it before they have a chance to take cover, you can wreak havoc. Groups of AI enemies do tend to start out with a 'plan' - the game tends to give them pretty good defensive positions to work with, and the AI knows about them. But no plan survives contact with the enemy, and what is Charge but very forceful contact with the enemy? Combined with a well placed primer like Singularity or Overload from an ally, you can hit an entire squad of opponents as they come down from a dropship or in a narrow chokepoint before they reach cover. This is devastating.
The final lesson you need to learn with Charge is to Finish What You Start. Very few foes should be able to survive a Charge combo. If most of your foes are surviving it, you should probably work on softening them up a bit more from range before Charging in. Whether you prefer to follow up your Charges with Shotgun blasts, Melee attacks, or Biotic Powers (particularly Nova) is up to you, and will determine how you upgrade the power, but the key is that after Charging at an opponent (or group of opponents), you should have a plan in place to dispose of them or get to safety after having done your damage. I find it's really helpful to slam on the Shift key just as my Charge makes impact to take a moment to aim, assess my available targets and cover opportunities, and plan my next few seconds of action until Charge comes off cooldown again.
Beyond that, it's really just a matter of practice, levelling up for more Charge upgrades, and buying whatever passive defense upgrades - particularly to shield strength - you can get your hands on. The stronger your barrier, the stronger your Novas, and the longer you'll last between Charges, so anything that improves Shepard's Shields is a very good investment for a Vanguard.
1
Is charging in and getting the hell out of there an option? I'm finding it hard to use charge and get back to safe cover even when I kill my targets.
– Ben Brocka
Mar 9 '12 at 1:12
2
I would have upvoted this based on the subtitle alone.
– Steve V.
Mar 18 '12 at 4:05
I... I might roll a Vanguard, now that I know these things.
– jordie3000
May 12 '12 at 2:35
add a comment |
Once More Unto the Breach!
Or, A Young Vanguard's Primer on the Proper Disregard for Personal Safety
The first lesson to properly using Charge is to Upgrade Charge. The ability really feels very weak at low ranks because it's not until you've upgraded it that you get the tools you need to survive its usage. At low levels, Charge is basically a finishing move. You can use it to pick off isolated foes who have cut themselves off from their allies, or to reposition Shepard into a new strategic spot from which to take cover. Both of those are very good ways to use Charge throughout the game, but it's not until you've picked up a couple of ranks that you can use Charge with abandon. In particular, Rank 2, which reduces the recharge time by 25%, and Rank 6, which gives Charge a 25% chance to not trigger a cooldown, or adds a substantial boost to your shields after charging are really really important.
The second lesson to properly using Charge is, like Alec Baldwin says, to A. B. C. Always Be Charging. If Charge isn't on cooldown, and you aren't in cover, you're dead. If Charge is on cooldown, it's because you've just charged, which reset your shields to full and knocked whatever you charged at into the air. Your goal, in the time between Charging and the cooldown on Charge ending, is to kill whatever you charged at, and then either get to cover, or pick a new target to Charge at. This is where upgrading to Rank 2 comes in, as does managing your weight capacity. Travel light to minimize your power recharge time. As a Vanguard, you'll primarily be relying on your Biotic Powers, your Melee attacks, and a trusty Shotgun - don't bother trying to haul around an Assault or Sniper Rifle, and you could make a convincing case for even skipping an SMG or Pistol once you get the hang of things - who needs more ways to shoot things when you can ram your fist into their face at the speed of sound?
The third lesson to properly using Charge is Pick Your Targets. As noted above, early on, you'll primarily want to use Charge on three types of targets: Enemies occupying strong defensive positions that you would rather have for yourself; Enemies that have cut themselves off from their allies and whom you can pick off while your squad mates keep their friends busy; and the last few enemies from a large group once you've thinned their ranks a bit. As you get better at Charging, you'll learn to spot enemies standing on the 'wrong' side of cover which you can use while waiting on your Charge cooldown, as well as which enemies can be killed within the stagger of a well placed Charge->Nova->Melee or Charge->Shotgun to the Face combo.
The fourth lesson to getting the most out of getting up in your opponents' faces is Combine Your Powers. Like the Planeteers, you are at your best when your squad uses their powers to support you. A well placed Singularity from Liara can present you with a field of unwitting chumps to Charge into and punch repeatedly into submission. A properly timed Sabotage can leave a clump of Synthetic foes fighting amongst themselves while you wreak havoc. Other squadmates can send out Decoys or Combat Drones that can draw fire while you Charge in. The longer it takes your opponents to realize that you are what they need to be shooting at, the less time they will spend shooting you before Charge comes off cooldown and you can recharge your shields.
The fifth lesson is Detonate! Charge is a universal Detonator. What does that mean? That means that if you can land a killing blow with Charge on a target suffering from any debuff, it will cause an explosion doing massive damage to nearby enemies. Better yet, if you do it to a frozen foe, or one that's on fire, you'll cause everyone nearby to freeze or catch fire. And when a Cerberus Merc is on fire, he isn't shooting at you. When a Geth Trooper is frozen, he'll shatter from the next shot he takes. Charging into a target stunned by Overload or Disruptor ammo will do large amounts of damage to other shielded foes in the area. Comboing with other biotic and tech powers is particularly handy for two reasons; first off, Biotic + Biotic and Biotic + Tech combos don't need to be a killing blow to detonate. Even better, as a Vanguard, you can invest one talent point into Pull to start the chain reaction yourself, meaning you don't even need to rely on your squad. Still, don't rule out the value of Cryo and Fire explosions - the former is quite easy to set up yourself thanks to Cryo Ammo. Better yet, take the Squad Ammo upgrade, and let your allies set up Cryo explosions for you. Every frozen opponent you kill with charge will freeze all of it's allies nearby!
The sixth lesson is Get in Fast. One of the biggest disadvantages of Charge is that it sends you right into the enemies face, all the way on the opposite side of the battlefield. Unfortunately, if they've fortified themselves, taken cover, and spread out, getting in one bad dudes face means there's probably six others taking potshots at your back. But!, One of the biggest advantages of Charge is that it sends you right into the enemies face, all the way on the opposite side of the battlefield. And if you do it before they have a chance to take cover, you can wreak havoc. Groups of AI enemies do tend to start out with a 'plan' - the game tends to give them pretty good defensive positions to work with, and the AI knows about them. But no plan survives contact with the enemy, and what is Charge but very forceful contact with the enemy? Combined with a well placed primer like Singularity or Overload from an ally, you can hit an entire squad of opponents as they come down from a dropship or in a narrow chokepoint before they reach cover. This is devastating.
The final lesson you need to learn with Charge is to Finish What You Start. Very few foes should be able to survive a Charge combo. If most of your foes are surviving it, you should probably work on softening them up a bit more from range before Charging in. Whether you prefer to follow up your Charges with Shotgun blasts, Melee attacks, or Biotic Powers (particularly Nova) is up to you, and will determine how you upgrade the power, but the key is that after Charging at an opponent (or group of opponents), you should have a plan in place to dispose of them or get to safety after having done your damage. I find it's really helpful to slam on the Shift key just as my Charge makes impact to take a moment to aim, assess my available targets and cover opportunities, and plan my next few seconds of action until Charge comes off cooldown again.
Beyond that, it's really just a matter of practice, levelling up for more Charge upgrades, and buying whatever passive defense upgrades - particularly to shield strength - you can get your hands on. The stronger your barrier, the stronger your Novas, and the longer you'll last between Charges, so anything that improves Shepard's Shields is a very good investment for a Vanguard.
Once More Unto the Breach!
Or, A Young Vanguard's Primer on the Proper Disregard for Personal Safety
The first lesson to properly using Charge is to Upgrade Charge. The ability really feels very weak at low ranks because it's not until you've upgraded it that you get the tools you need to survive its usage. At low levels, Charge is basically a finishing move. You can use it to pick off isolated foes who have cut themselves off from their allies, or to reposition Shepard into a new strategic spot from which to take cover. Both of those are very good ways to use Charge throughout the game, but it's not until you've picked up a couple of ranks that you can use Charge with abandon. In particular, Rank 2, which reduces the recharge time by 25%, and Rank 6, which gives Charge a 25% chance to not trigger a cooldown, or adds a substantial boost to your shields after charging are really really important.
The second lesson to properly using Charge is, like Alec Baldwin says, to A. B. C. Always Be Charging. If Charge isn't on cooldown, and you aren't in cover, you're dead. If Charge is on cooldown, it's because you've just charged, which reset your shields to full and knocked whatever you charged at into the air. Your goal, in the time between Charging and the cooldown on Charge ending, is to kill whatever you charged at, and then either get to cover, or pick a new target to Charge at. This is where upgrading to Rank 2 comes in, as does managing your weight capacity. Travel light to minimize your power recharge time. As a Vanguard, you'll primarily be relying on your Biotic Powers, your Melee attacks, and a trusty Shotgun - don't bother trying to haul around an Assault or Sniper Rifle, and you could make a convincing case for even skipping an SMG or Pistol once you get the hang of things - who needs more ways to shoot things when you can ram your fist into their face at the speed of sound?
The third lesson to properly using Charge is Pick Your Targets. As noted above, early on, you'll primarily want to use Charge on three types of targets: Enemies occupying strong defensive positions that you would rather have for yourself; Enemies that have cut themselves off from their allies and whom you can pick off while your squad mates keep their friends busy; and the last few enemies from a large group once you've thinned their ranks a bit. As you get better at Charging, you'll learn to spot enemies standing on the 'wrong' side of cover which you can use while waiting on your Charge cooldown, as well as which enemies can be killed within the stagger of a well placed Charge->Nova->Melee or Charge->Shotgun to the Face combo.
The fourth lesson to getting the most out of getting up in your opponents' faces is Combine Your Powers. Like the Planeteers, you are at your best when your squad uses their powers to support you. A well placed Singularity from Liara can present you with a field of unwitting chumps to Charge into and punch repeatedly into submission. A properly timed Sabotage can leave a clump of Synthetic foes fighting amongst themselves while you wreak havoc. Other squadmates can send out Decoys or Combat Drones that can draw fire while you Charge in. The longer it takes your opponents to realize that you are what they need to be shooting at, the less time they will spend shooting you before Charge comes off cooldown and you can recharge your shields.
The fifth lesson is Detonate! Charge is a universal Detonator. What does that mean? That means that if you can land a killing blow with Charge on a target suffering from any debuff, it will cause an explosion doing massive damage to nearby enemies. Better yet, if you do it to a frozen foe, or one that's on fire, you'll cause everyone nearby to freeze or catch fire. And when a Cerberus Merc is on fire, he isn't shooting at you. When a Geth Trooper is frozen, he'll shatter from the next shot he takes. Charging into a target stunned by Overload or Disruptor ammo will do large amounts of damage to other shielded foes in the area. Comboing with other biotic and tech powers is particularly handy for two reasons; first off, Biotic + Biotic and Biotic + Tech combos don't need to be a killing blow to detonate. Even better, as a Vanguard, you can invest one talent point into Pull to start the chain reaction yourself, meaning you don't even need to rely on your squad. Still, don't rule out the value of Cryo and Fire explosions - the former is quite easy to set up yourself thanks to Cryo Ammo. Better yet, take the Squad Ammo upgrade, and let your allies set up Cryo explosions for you. Every frozen opponent you kill with charge will freeze all of it's allies nearby!
The sixth lesson is Get in Fast. One of the biggest disadvantages of Charge is that it sends you right into the enemies face, all the way on the opposite side of the battlefield. Unfortunately, if they've fortified themselves, taken cover, and spread out, getting in one bad dudes face means there's probably six others taking potshots at your back. But!, One of the biggest advantages of Charge is that it sends you right into the enemies face, all the way on the opposite side of the battlefield. And if you do it before they have a chance to take cover, you can wreak havoc. Groups of AI enemies do tend to start out with a 'plan' - the game tends to give them pretty good defensive positions to work with, and the AI knows about them. But no plan survives contact with the enemy, and what is Charge but very forceful contact with the enemy? Combined with a well placed primer like Singularity or Overload from an ally, you can hit an entire squad of opponents as they come down from a dropship or in a narrow chokepoint before they reach cover. This is devastating.
The final lesson you need to learn with Charge is to Finish What You Start. Very few foes should be able to survive a Charge combo. If most of your foes are surviving it, you should probably work on softening them up a bit more from range before Charging in. Whether you prefer to follow up your Charges with Shotgun blasts, Melee attacks, or Biotic Powers (particularly Nova) is up to you, and will determine how you upgrade the power, but the key is that after Charging at an opponent (or group of opponents), you should have a plan in place to dispose of them or get to safety after having done your damage. I find it's really helpful to slam on the Shift key just as my Charge makes impact to take a moment to aim, assess my available targets and cover opportunities, and plan my next few seconds of action until Charge comes off cooldown again.
Beyond that, it's really just a matter of practice, levelling up for more Charge upgrades, and buying whatever passive defense upgrades - particularly to shield strength - you can get your hands on. The stronger your barrier, the stronger your Novas, and the longer you'll last between Charges, so anything that improves Shepard's Shields is a very good investment for a Vanguard.
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Is charging in and getting the hell out of there an option? I'm finding it hard to use charge and get back to safe cover even when I kill my targets.
– Ben Brocka
Mar 9 '12 at 1:12
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I would have upvoted this based on the subtitle alone.
– Steve V.
Mar 18 '12 at 4:05
I... I might roll a Vanguard, now that I know these things.
– jordie3000
May 12 '12 at 2:35
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Is charging in and getting the hell out of there an option? I'm finding it hard to use charge and get back to safe cover even when I kill my targets.
– Ben Brocka
Mar 9 '12 at 1:12
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I would have upvoted this based on the subtitle alone.
– Steve V.
Mar 18 '12 at 4:05
I... I might roll a Vanguard, now that I know these things.
– jordie3000
May 12 '12 at 2:35
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Is charging in and getting the hell out of there an option? I'm finding it hard to use charge and get back to safe cover even when I kill my targets.
– Ben Brocka
Mar 9 '12 at 1:12
Is charging in and getting the hell out of there an option? I'm finding it hard to use charge and get back to safe cover even when I kill my targets.
– Ben Brocka
Mar 9 '12 at 1:12
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I would have upvoted this based on the subtitle alone.
– Steve V.
Mar 18 '12 at 4:05
I would have upvoted this based on the subtitle alone.
– Steve V.
Mar 18 '12 at 4:05
I... I might roll a Vanguard, now that I know these things.
– jordie3000
May 12 '12 at 2:35
I... I might roll a Vanguard, now that I know these things.
– jordie3000
May 12 '12 at 2:35
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Biotic Charge and Nova don't share a cooldown. While the thought of spending your shields in the middle of a group of enemies might not sound... sane at first glance, the important thing is that it knocks back and staggers enemies, leaving them prime targets for a heavy melee, or giving you time to jump into cover.
Alternatively, you might want to use biotic charge to flee - It's pretty handy for zipping around the battlefield, and if you spot an isolated enemy unit, and you can charge over to them, you've just restored your barrier and get out of the main crossfire.
The biggest advantage charging gives you is the shield replenish. This means that any time you improve your total shields, you're also giving Biotic Charge a small boost.
Honestly, the biggest problem is that you shouldn't be charging into large groups in the first place. Use it as a dueling skill against smaller numbers of enemies, and you might find yourself living much longer.
I had trouble figuring out how to use it effectively in 2, but once I did, playing my Vanguard became a ton of fun, even on Insanity. I spend the majority of fights in the red warning stage of health, but I just keep hammering Charge+Shotgun+Melee+frantically hammering Charge's hotkey til it was off CD again, and it was glorious.
– FAE
Mar 6 '12 at 13:28
Unlike in ME2, you should ALWAYS charge into groups first. For example, you charge into a group consisting of 1 Marauder and 5 Cannibals. It doesn't matter which one you charge, just charge the one in the center. Charge(radius charge being the better one), then Nova(radius+half cost one). With rank 6 Nova upgrade and usual armor/upgrade setup, the Marauder's shield is now vaporized. Pull a cannibal flying around, charge. Nothing survives within the Biotic Detonation radius, especially the Marauder who was the closest to you thanks to the vaporized shield he really needed to survive.
– Jake 'Alquimista' LEE
Apr 3 '12 at 4:02
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Biotic Charge and Nova don't share a cooldown. While the thought of spending your shields in the middle of a group of enemies might not sound... sane at first glance, the important thing is that it knocks back and staggers enemies, leaving them prime targets for a heavy melee, or giving you time to jump into cover.
Alternatively, you might want to use biotic charge to flee - It's pretty handy for zipping around the battlefield, and if you spot an isolated enemy unit, and you can charge over to them, you've just restored your barrier and get out of the main crossfire.
The biggest advantage charging gives you is the shield replenish. This means that any time you improve your total shields, you're also giving Biotic Charge a small boost.
Honestly, the biggest problem is that you shouldn't be charging into large groups in the first place. Use it as a dueling skill against smaller numbers of enemies, and you might find yourself living much longer.
I had trouble figuring out how to use it effectively in 2, but once I did, playing my Vanguard became a ton of fun, even on Insanity. I spend the majority of fights in the red warning stage of health, but I just keep hammering Charge+Shotgun+Melee+frantically hammering Charge's hotkey til it was off CD again, and it was glorious.
– FAE
Mar 6 '12 at 13:28
Unlike in ME2, you should ALWAYS charge into groups first. For example, you charge into a group consisting of 1 Marauder and 5 Cannibals. It doesn't matter which one you charge, just charge the one in the center. Charge(radius charge being the better one), then Nova(radius+half cost one). With rank 6 Nova upgrade and usual armor/upgrade setup, the Marauder's shield is now vaporized. Pull a cannibal flying around, charge. Nothing survives within the Biotic Detonation radius, especially the Marauder who was the closest to you thanks to the vaporized shield he really needed to survive.
– Jake 'Alquimista' LEE
Apr 3 '12 at 4:02
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Biotic Charge and Nova don't share a cooldown. While the thought of spending your shields in the middle of a group of enemies might not sound... sane at first glance, the important thing is that it knocks back and staggers enemies, leaving them prime targets for a heavy melee, or giving you time to jump into cover.
Alternatively, you might want to use biotic charge to flee - It's pretty handy for zipping around the battlefield, and if you spot an isolated enemy unit, and you can charge over to them, you've just restored your barrier and get out of the main crossfire.
The biggest advantage charging gives you is the shield replenish. This means that any time you improve your total shields, you're also giving Biotic Charge a small boost.
Honestly, the biggest problem is that you shouldn't be charging into large groups in the first place. Use it as a dueling skill against smaller numbers of enemies, and you might find yourself living much longer.
Biotic Charge and Nova don't share a cooldown. While the thought of spending your shields in the middle of a group of enemies might not sound... sane at first glance, the important thing is that it knocks back and staggers enemies, leaving them prime targets for a heavy melee, or giving you time to jump into cover.
Alternatively, you might want to use biotic charge to flee - It's pretty handy for zipping around the battlefield, and if you spot an isolated enemy unit, and you can charge over to them, you've just restored your barrier and get out of the main crossfire.
The biggest advantage charging gives you is the shield replenish. This means that any time you improve your total shields, you're also giving Biotic Charge a small boost.
Honestly, the biggest problem is that you shouldn't be charging into large groups in the first place. Use it as a dueling skill against smaller numbers of enemies, and you might find yourself living much longer.
answered Mar 6 '12 at 13:21
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I had trouble figuring out how to use it effectively in 2, but once I did, playing my Vanguard became a ton of fun, even on Insanity. I spend the majority of fights in the red warning stage of health, but I just keep hammering Charge+Shotgun+Melee+frantically hammering Charge's hotkey til it was off CD again, and it was glorious.
– FAE
Mar 6 '12 at 13:28
Unlike in ME2, you should ALWAYS charge into groups first. For example, you charge into a group consisting of 1 Marauder and 5 Cannibals. It doesn't matter which one you charge, just charge the one in the center. Charge(radius charge being the better one), then Nova(radius+half cost one). With rank 6 Nova upgrade and usual armor/upgrade setup, the Marauder's shield is now vaporized. Pull a cannibal flying around, charge. Nothing survives within the Biotic Detonation radius, especially the Marauder who was the closest to you thanks to the vaporized shield he really needed to survive.
– Jake 'Alquimista' LEE
Apr 3 '12 at 4:02
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I had trouble figuring out how to use it effectively in 2, but once I did, playing my Vanguard became a ton of fun, even on Insanity. I spend the majority of fights in the red warning stage of health, but I just keep hammering Charge+Shotgun+Melee+frantically hammering Charge's hotkey til it was off CD again, and it was glorious.
– FAE
Mar 6 '12 at 13:28
Unlike in ME2, you should ALWAYS charge into groups first. For example, you charge into a group consisting of 1 Marauder and 5 Cannibals. It doesn't matter which one you charge, just charge the one in the center. Charge(radius charge being the better one), then Nova(radius+half cost one). With rank 6 Nova upgrade and usual armor/upgrade setup, the Marauder's shield is now vaporized. Pull a cannibal flying around, charge. Nothing survives within the Biotic Detonation radius, especially the Marauder who was the closest to you thanks to the vaporized shield he really needed to survive.
– Jake 'Alquimista' LEE
Apr 3 '12 at 4:02
I had trouble figuring out how to use it effectively in 2, but once I did, playing my Vanguard became a ton of fun, even on Insanity. I spend the majority of fights in the red warning stage of health, but I just keep hammering Charge+Shotgun+Melee+frantically hammering Charge's hotkey til it was off CD again, and it was glorious.
– FAE
Mar 6 '12 at 13:28
I had trouble figuring out how to use it effectively in 2, but once I did, playing my Vanguard became a ton of fun, even on Insanity. I spend the majority of fights in the red warning stage of health, but I just keep hammering Charge+Shotgun+Melee+frantically hammering Charge's hotkey til it was off CD again, and it was glorious.
– FAE
Mar 6 '12 at 13:28
Unlike in ME2, you should ALWAYS charge into groups first. For example, you charge into a group consisting of 1 Marauder and 5 Cannibals. It doesn't matter which one you charge, just charge the one in the center. Charge(radius charge being the better one), then Nova(radius+half cost one). With rank 6 Nova upgrade and usual armor/upgrade setup, the Marauder's shield is now vaporized. Pull a cannibal flying around, charge. Nothing survives within the Biotic Detonation radius, especially the Marauder who was the closest to you thanks to the vaporized shield he really needed to survive.
– Jake 'Alquimista' LEE
Apr 3 '12 at 4:02
Unlike in ME2, you should ALWAYS charge into groups first. For example, you charge into a group consisting of 1 Marauder and 5 Cannibals. It doesn't matter which one you charge, just charge the one in the center. Charge(radius charge being the better one), then Nova(radius+half cost one). With rank 6 Nova upgrade and usual armor/upgrade setup, the Marauder's shield is now vaporized. Pull a cannibal flying around, charge. Nothing survives within the Biotic Detonation radius, especially the Marauder who was the closest to you thanks to the vaporized shield he really needed to survive.
– Jake 'Alquimista' LEE
Apr 3 '12 at 4:02
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Charging is just OP with the right setup. I only carry a pistol into battle (giving me 200% power recharge), along with a full set of melee damage gear + weapon blades. Couple that with the perks in both charge and nova that increase cooldown speed, as well as recharging shields to 100% on a successful charge, I'm able to spam charge and nova without too much worry on taking damage. I can melee a geth prime like nothing. Charge, punch, nova, repeat. I teleport around the battlefield like Goku on crack.
+1, after playing around with just carrying a pistol, this quickly became very OP even on hardcore difficulty.
– l I
Mar 8 '12 at 22:36
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Charging is just OP with the right setup. I only carry a pistol into battle (giving me 200% power recharge), along with a full set of melee damage gear + weapon blades. Couple that with the perks in both charge and nova that increase cooldown speed, as well as recharging shields to 100% on a successful charge, I'm able to spam charge and nova without too much worry on taking damage. I can melee a geth prime like nothing. Charge, punch, nova, repeat. I teleport around the battlefield like Goku on crack.
+1, after playing around with just carrying a pistol, this quickly became very OP even on hardcore difficulty.
– l I
Mar 8 '12 at 22:36
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Charging is just OP with the right setup. I only carry a pistol into battle (giving me 200% power recharge), along with a full set of melee damage gear + weapon blades. Couple that with the perks in both charge and nova that increase cooldown speed, as well as recharging shields to 100% on a successful charge, I'm able to spam charge and nova without too much worry on taking damage. I can melee a geth prime like nothing. Charge, punch, nova, repeat. I teleport around the battlefield like Goku on crack.
Charging is just OP with the right setup. I only carry a pistol into battle (giving me 200% power recharge), along with a full set of melee damage gear + weapon blades. Couple that with the perks in both charge and nova that increase cooldown speed, as well as recharging shields to 100% on a successful charge, I'm able to spam charge and nova without too much worry on taking damage. I can melee a geth prime like nothing. Charge, punch, nova, repeat. I teleport around the battlefield like Goku on crack.
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+1, after playing around with just carrying a pistol, this quickly became very OP even on hardcore difficulty.
– l I
Mar 8 '12 at 22:36
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+1, after playing around with just carrying a pistol, this quickly became very OP even on hardcore difficulty.
– l I
Mar 8 '12 at 22:36
+1, after playing around with just carrying a pistol, this quickly became very OP even on hardcore difficulty.
– l I
Mar 8 '12 at 22:36
+1, after playing around with just carrying a pistol, this quickly became very OP even on hardcore difficulty.
– l I
Mar 8 '12 at 22:36
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You can even finish insanity without any weapon at all. Charge/Nova combo is somewhat overpowered IMO. Just take energy drain - another overpowered skill - as the bonus power.
While shotguns are extremely cool, they are too unforgiving. The best weapon setup is Tempest(magazine+barrel/heat mod) + Vindicator(armor piercing+barrel/stability mod) IMO
You get them very early in the game(Vindicator on Mars, Tempest on Tuchanka rescuing Lt Victus), and when both are upgraded to level 5, you don't even have to pick the weight capacity passive upgrade in order to retain 200% cooldown boost.
Equip Tempest, hold fire button and tap Nova hotkey while charging, if Nova is pulled out upon impact, fine, if not, the charged one will eat all the bullets, unlike any shotgun that requires aiming.
If you encounter Brutes/Banshees, switch to Vindicator. You will be surprised how fast they go down.
And yes, I'm talking about insanity.
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You can even finish insanity without any weapon at all. Charge/Nova combo is somewhat overpowered IMO. Just take energy drain - another overpowered skill - as the bonus power.
While shotguns are extremely cool, they are too unforgiving. The best weapon setup is Tempest(magazine+barrel/heat mod) + Vindicator(armor piercing+barrel/stability mod) IMO
You get them very early in the game(Vindicator on Mars, Tempest on Tuchanka rescuing Lt Victus), and when both are upgraded to level 5, you don't even have to pick the weight capacity passive upgrade in order to retain 200% cooldown boost.
Equip Tempest, hold fire button and tap Nova hotkey while charging, if Nova is pulled out upon impact, fine, if not, the charged one will eat all the bullets, unlike any shotgun that requires aiming.
If you encounter Brutes/Banshees, switch to Vindicator. You will be surprised how fast they go down.
And yes, I'm talking about insanity.
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You can even finish insanity without any weapon at all. Charge/Nova combo is somewhat overpowered IMO. Just take energy drain - another overpowered skill - as the bonus power.
While shotguns are extremely cool, they are too unforgiving. The best weapon setup is Tempest(magazine+barrel/heat mod) + Vindicator(armor piercing+barrel/stability mod) IMO
You get them very early in the game(Vindicator on Mars, Tempest on Tuchanka rescuing Lt Victus), and when both are upgraded to level 5, you don't even have to pick the weight capacity passive upgrade in order to retain 200% cooldown boost.
Equip Tempest, hold fire button and tap Nova hotkey while charging, if Nova is pulled out upon impact, fine, if not, the charged one will eat all the bullets, unlike any shotgun that requires aiming.
If you encounter Brutes/Banshees, switch to Vindicator. You will be surprised how fast they go down.
And yes, I'm talking about insanity.
You can even finish insanity without any weapon at all. Charge/Nova combo is somewhat overpowered IMO. Just take energy drain - another overpowered skill - as the bonus power.
While shotguns are extremely cool, they are too unforgiving. The best weapon setup is Tempest(magazine+barrel/heat mod) + Vindicator(armor piercing+barrel/stability mod) IMO
You get them very early in the game(Vindicator on Mars, Tempest on Tuchanka rescuing Lt Victus), and when both are upgraded to level 5, you don't even have to pick the weight capacity passive upgrade in order to retain 200% cooldown boost.
Equip Tempest, hold fire button and tap Nova hotkey while charging, if Nova is pulled out upon impact, fine, if not, the charged one will eat all the bullets, unlike any shotgun that requires aiming.
If you encounter Brutes/Banshees, switch to Vindicator. You will be surprised how fast they go down.
And yes, I'm talking about insanity.
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answered Mar 26 '12 at 8:06
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As a vanguard, charge is your go to. If you find yourself up against a group of enemies a fair bit away, and they don't have any ranged support (e.g turret, atlas etc) charge + nova + Heavy melee + Shotgun = many dead. Against single units, its incredibly useful, and provides both a barrier recharge and a possible escape route. Surprisingly, it also works against heavy units, such as atlases or brutes, even on higher difficulties. Against an atlas - Charge, heavy melee, roll back, maybe a shotgun blast, repeat. Against brutes - charge, roll to the side, shotgun, roll away, charge, repeat. It's extremely versatile.
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As a vanguard, charge is your go to. If you find yourself up against a group of enemies a fair bit away, and they don't have any ranged support (e.g turret, atlas etc) charge + nova + Heavy melee + Shotgun = many dead. Against single units, its incredibly useful, and provides both a barrier recharge and a possible escape route. Surprisingly, it also works against heavy units, such as atlases or brutes, even on higher difficulties. Against an atlas - Charge, heavy melee, roll back, maybe a shotgun blast, repeat. Against brutes - charge, roll to the side, shotgun, roll away, charge, repeat. It's extremely versatile.
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As a vanguard, charge is your go to. If you find yourself up against a group of enemies a fair bit away, and they don't have any ranged support (e.g turret, atlas etc) charge + nova + Heavy melee + Shotgun = many dead. Against single units, its incredibly useful, and provides both a barrier recharge and a possible escape route. Surprisingly, it also works against heavy units, such as atlases or brutes, even on higher difficulties. Against an atlas - Charge, heavy melee, roll back, maybe a shotgun blast, repeat. Against brutes - charge, roll to the side, shotgun, roll away, charge, repeat. It's extremely versatile.
As a vanguard, charge is your go to. If you find yourself up against a group of enemies a fair bit away, and they don't have any ranged support (e.g turret, atlas etc) charge + nova + Heavy melee + Shotgun = many dead. Against single units, its incredibly useful, and provides both a barrier recharge and a possible escape route. Surprisingly, it also works against heavy units, such as atlases or brutes, even on higher difficulties. Against an atlas - Charge, heavy melee, roll back, maybe a shotgun blast, repeat. Against brutes - charge, roll to the side, shotgun, roll away, charge, repeat. It's extremely versatile.
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Fyi, you can also press fire while you charge, like this you weapon shot directly in target body after charging. Vs armor + cryo ammo, mixed with the kaidan cryo blast and warp from liara you weaken theorically the armor from 50% to 100%, doing this in combo give a devastating combination. You can also press F (on PC) to do a melee directly after charging.
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Fyi, you can also press fire while you charge, like this you weapon shot directly in target body after charging. Vs armor + cryo ammo, mixed with the kaidan cryo blast and warp from liara you weaken theorically the armor from 50% to 100%, doing this in combo give a devastating combination. You can also press F (on PC) to do a melee directly after charging.
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Fyi, you can also press fire while you charge, like this you weapon shot directly in target body after charging. Vs armor + cryo ammo, mixed with the kaidan cryo blast and warp from liara you weaken theorically the armor from 50% to 100%, doing this in combo give a devastating combination. You can also press F (on PC) to do a melee directly after charging.
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Fyi, you can also press fire while you charge, like this you weapon shot directly in target body after charging. Vs armor + cryo ammo, mixed with the kaidan cryo blast and warp from liara you weaken theorically the armor from 50% to 100%, doing this in combo give a devastating combination. You can also press F (on PC) to do a melee directly after charging.
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