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Ok I am in grade 9 and I am maybe too young for this.

But I thought about this, why dividing by 0 is impossible.

Dividing by 0 is possible would mean 1/0 is possible, which would mean 0 has a multiplaction inverse.

So if we multiplicate a number by 0 then by 1/0 we get the same number.

But thats impossible because all numbers multiplicated by 0 gives 0 therfore we cant have an inverse for 0 that gives us the initial number and thus division by 0 is impossible

Is this right?

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  Your answer is 100% correct and you should probably become a mathematician. These kinds of answers (mathematicians also call them proofs) are what mathematicians do all day long.
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Ok I am in grade 9 and I am maybe too young for this.

But I thought about this, why dividing by 0 is impossible.

Dividing by 0 is possible would mean 1/0 is possible, which would mean 0 has a multiplaction inverse.

So if we multiplicate a number by 0 then by 1/0 we get the same number.

But thats impossible because all numbers multiplicated by 0 gives 0 therfore we cant have an inverse for 0 that gives us the initial number and thus division by 0 is impossible

Is this right?

proof-verification

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  Your answer is 100% correct and you should probably become a mathematician. These kinds of answers (mathematicians also call them proofs) are what mathematicians do all day long.
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Ok I am in grade 9 and I am maybe too young for this.

But I thought about this, why dividing by 0 is impossible.

Dividing by 0 is possible would mean 1/0 is possible, which would mean 0 has a multiplaction inverse.

So if we multiplicate a number by 0 then by 1/0 we get the same number.

But thats impossible because all numbers multiplicated by 0 gives 0 therfore we cant have an inverse for 0 that gives us the initial number and thus division by 0 is impossible

Is this right?

proof-verification

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That's the most basic reason that division by $0$ is usually considered to be a Bad Thing, yes. Because if we did allow dividing by $0$, we would have to give up at least of one of the following things (these are usually considered Very Nice):

• What $1$ means ($1cdot a = a$ for any $a$)


• What $0$ means ($0 cdot a = 0$ for any $a$)


• What division means ($frac ab = c$ means $a = ccdot b$)

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Yes . . . and no.

You might be interested in, for example, Wheel Theory, where division by zero is defined.

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  @Arthur I think this is extremely relevant. It shows that division by zero isn't some sort of sacred thing that we must not touch, it's just contradictory to the three Very Nice things in your post, and there are systems of "multiplication" and "division" out there where we are allowed to divide by zero. +1 for this answer.
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That's the most basic reason that division by $0$ is usually considered to be a Bad Thing, yes. Because if we did allow dividing by $0$, we would have to give up at least of one of the following things (these are usually considered Very Nice):

• What $1$ means ($1cdot a = a$ for any $a$)


• What $0$ means ($0 cdot a = 0$ for any $a$)


• What division means ($frac ab = c$ means $a = ccdot b$)

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That's the most basic reason that division by $0$ is usually considered to be a Bad Thing, yes. Because if we did allow dividing by $0$, we would have to give up at least of one of the following things (these are usually considered Very Nice):

• What $1$ means ($1cdot a = a$ for any $a$)


• What $0$ means ($0 cdot a = 0$ for any $a$)


• What division means ($frac ab = c$ means $a = ccdot b$)

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answered 5 hours ago

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That's the most basic reason that division by $0$ is usually considered to be a Bad Thing, yes. Because if we did allow dividing by $0$, we would have to give up at least of one of the following things (these are usually considered Very Nice):

• What $1$ means ($1cdot a = a$ for any $a$)


• What $0$ means ($0 cdot a = 0$ for any $a$)


• What division means ($frac ab = c$ means $a = ccdot b$)

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Yes . . . and no.

You might be interested in, for example, Wheel Theory, where division by zero is defined.

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  @Arthur I think this is extremely relevant. It shows that division by zero isn't some sort of sacred thing that we must not touch, it's just contradictory to the three Very Nice things in your post, and there are systems of "multiplication" and "division" out there where we are allowed to divide by zero. +1 for this answer.
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Yes . . . and no.

You might be interested in, for example, Wheel Theory, where division by zero is defined.

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  You think this is very relevant for a ninth grader? I mean, it might be cool to know it's out there, but does this really answer the question that is asked?
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  @Arthur I think this is extremely relevant. It shows that division by zero isn't some sort of sacred thing that we must not touch, it's just contradictory to the three Very Nice things in your post, and there are systems of "multiplication" and "division" out there where we are allowed to divide by zero. +1 for this answer.
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Yes . . . and no.

You might be interested in, for example, Wheel Theory, where division by zero is defined.

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