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How to add tiny 0.5A 120V load to very remote split phase 240v 3 wire well house
The Next CEO of Stack OverflowHow can I connect a 120V compressor to a 3 phase WYE 208 electrical system?Adding electrical service to detached garageUsing half of a 240v dual-phase circuit as a 120v single-phase circuit (US)How to wire a 240V disconnect panel for spa that does not require neutral?Hybrid 1ph/3ph load center fed by rotary phase converter?Chinese Breaker Box (240v split-phase?) Lacks Neutral Wires and Grounding BusSingle phase 120v to split phase 120v (240)Getting 120v single phase & 240v three phase out of 240v single phase recepticalProper grounding and service wire choice for remote load center, RV pedestalCan I run THHN for separate washer and dryer circuits through the same conduit?
Given that I don't have neutral, sounds like, even for just running a simple irrigation controller, that I don't want to use the ground wire for my neutral and simply pull 120v off the split phase 240V since a potential short would energize the ground wire.
It seems like running a small transformer is the way to go. However often recommendations I have found mention adding a sub panel breaker after the transformer, which seems like overkill for my need. Would adding a 5A fuse to new transformed 120V be fine instead of a whole breaker box?
I'm surprised how much transformers are, and most of them are for transforming single phase Euro 220v to US 110v, anyone have a good source?
As an aside, if this existing ground to the 240V did connect directly to ground at the main panel instead of neutral (haven't looked yet, in the neighbor's panel) then to me it would be ok to just pull L1 and ground off the 240V and skip the transformer right? These are very large wires running a 20A load to a well pump, might 1000' away, so I think this is the only load on that breaker.
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Given that I don't have neutral, sounds like, even for just running a simple irrigation controller, that I don't want to use the ground wire for my neutral and simply pull 120v off the split phase 240V since a potential short would energize the ground wire.
It seems like running a small transformer is the way to go. However often recommendations I have found mention adding a sub panel breaker after the transformer, which seems like overkill for my need. Would adding a 5A fuse to new transformed 120V be fine instead of a whole breaker box?
I'm surprised how much transformers are, and most of them are for transforming single phase Euro 220v to US 110v, anyone have a good source?
As an aside, if this existing ground to the 240V did connect directly to ground at the main panel instead of neutral (haven't looked yet, in the neighbor's panel) then to me it would be ok to just pull L1 and ground off the 240V and skip the transformer right? These are very large wires running a 20A load to a well pump, might 1000' away, so I think this is the only load on that breaker.
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What are you trying to power? It may well be easier to modify the device to accept 240V power than to try and get 120V in the building.
– Nate Strickland
9 hours ago
Also there's nothing wrong with using a transformer meant for travel within the US. This one, for example, might do nicely for you: amazon.com/Power-Bright-VC1500W-Transformer-converter/dp/…
– Nate Strickland
9 hours ago
@NateStrickland right on about changing the load! The problem with those autotransformers is they will provide an approximate center-tap but it's not a bona-fide neutral, so both wires will be hot.
– Harper
8 hours ago
What is the load? Will it be plugged into a receptacle or hard wired?
– batsplatsterson
8 hours ago
if it is just for an irrigation controller, then maybe all you need is an appropriate 240VAC transformer ..... probably one with a 24VAC output ..... something like this .... ebay.com/itm/… ........... or buy a controller designed for 240Vac ..... ebay.com/itm/…
– jsotola
8 hours ago
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Given that I don't have neutral, sounds like, even for just running a simple irrigation controller, that I don't want to use the ground wire for my neutral and simply pull 120v off the split phase 240V since a potential short would energize the ground wire.
It seems like running a small transformer is the way to go. However often recommendations I have found mention adding a sub panel breaker after the transformer, which seems like overkill for my need. Would adding a 5A fuse to new transformed 120V be fine instead of a whole breaker box?
I'm surprised how much transformers are, and most of them are for transforming single phase Euro 220v to US 110v, anyone have a good source?
As an aside, if this existing ground to the 240V did connect directly to ground at the main panel instead of neutral (haven't looked yet, in the neighbor's panel) then to me it would be ok to just pull L1 and ground off the 240V and skip the transformer right? These are very large wires running a 20A load to a well pump, might 1000' away, so I think this is the only load on that breaker.
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Given that I don't have neutral, sounds like, even for just running a simple irrigation controller, that I don't want to use the ground wire for my neutral and simply pull 120v off the split phase 240V since a potential short would energize the ground wire.
It seems like running a small transformer is the way to go. However often recommendations I have found mention adding a sub panel breaker after the transformer, which seems like overkill for my need. Would adding a 5A fuse to new transformed 120V be fine instead of a whole breaker box?
I'm surprised how much transformers are, and most of them are for transforming single phase Euro 220v to US 110v, anyone have a good source?
As an aside, if this existing ground to the 240V did connect directly to ground at the main panel instead of neutral (haven't looked yet, in the neighbor's panel) then to me it would be ok to just pull L1 and ground off the 240V and skip the transformer right? These are very large wires running a 20A load to a well pump, might 1000' away, so I think this is the only load on that breaker.
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What are you trying to power? It may well be easier to modify the device to accept 240V power than to try and get 120V in the building.
– Nate Strickland
9 hours ago
Also there's nothing wrong with using a transformer meant for travel within the US. This one, for example, might do nicely for you: amazon.com/Power-Bright-VC1500W-Transformer-converter/dp/…
– Nate Strickland
9 hours ago
@NateStrickland right on about changing the load! The problem with those autotransformers is they will provide an approximate center-tap but it's not a bona-fide neutral, so both wires will be hot.
– Harper
8 hours ago
What is the load? Will it be plugged into a receptacle or hard wired?
– batsplatsterson
8 hours ago
if it is just for an irrigation controller, then maybe all you need is an appropriate 240VAC transformer ..... probably one with a 24VAC output ..... something like this .... ebay.com/itm/… ........... or buy a controller designed for 240Vac ..... ebay.com/itm/…
– jsotola
8 hours ago
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What are you trying to power? It may well be easier to modify the device to accept 240V power than to try and get 120V in the building.
– Nate Strickland
9 hours ago
Also there's nothing wrong with using a transformer meant for travel within the US. This one, for example, might do nicely for you: amazon.com/Power-Bright-VC1500W-Transformer-converter/dp/…
– Nate Strickland
9 hours ago
@NateStrickland right on about changing the load! The problem with those autotransformers is they will provide an approximate center-tap but it's not a bona-fide neutral, so both wires will be hot.
– Harper
8 hours ago
What is the load? Will it be plugged into a receptacle or hard wired?
– batsplatsterson
8 hours ago
if it is just for an irrigation controller, then maybe all you need is an appropriate 240VAC transformer ..... probably one with a 24VAC output ..... something like this .... ebay.com/itm/… ........... or buy a controller designed for 240Vac ..... ebay.com/itm/…
– jsotola
8 hours ago
2
2
What are you trying to power? It may well be easier to modify the device to accept 240V power than to try and get 120V in the building.
– Nate Strickland
9 hours ago
What are you trying to power? It may well be easier to modify the device to accept 240V power than to try and get 120V in the building.
– Nate Strickland
9 hours ago
Also there's nothing wrong with using a transformer meant for travel within the US. This one, for example, might do nicely for you: amazon.com/Power-Bright-VC1500W-Transformer-converter/dp/…
– Nate Strickland
9 hours ago
Also there's nothing wrong with using a transformer meant for travel within the US. This one, for example, might do nicely for you: amazon.com/Power-Bright-VC1500W-Transformer-converter/dp/…
– Nate Strickland
9 hours ago
@NateStrickland right on about changing the load! The problem with those autotransformers is they will provide an approximate center-tap but it's not a bona-fide neutral, so both wires will be hot.
– Harper
8 hours ago
@NateStrickland right on about changing the load! The problem with those autotransformers is they will provide an approximate center-tap but it's not a bona-fide neutral, so both wires will be hot.
– Harper
8 hours ago
What is the load? Will it be plugged into a receptacle or hard wired?
– batsplatsterson
8 hours ago
What is the load? Will it be plugged into a receptacle or hard wired?
– batsplatsterson
8 hours ago
if it is just for an irrigation controller, then maybe all you need is an appropriate 240VAC transformer ..... probably one with a 24VAC output ..... something like this .... ebay.com/itm/… ........... or buy a controller designed for 240Vac ..... ebay.com/itm/…
– jsotola
8 hours ago
if it is just for an irrigation controller, then maybe all you need is an appropriate 240VAC transformer ..... probably one with a 24VAC output ..... something like this .... ebay.com/itm/… ........... or buy a controller designed for 240Vac ..... ebay.com/itm/…
– jsotola
8 hours ago
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At 0.15A x 120V, this thing is about 18 VA (similar to watts). That is significantly less than 40 VA.
As it happens, 40VA thermostat transformers are cheap and common as dirt, typically around $13. They make them with both 240V and 120V primaries. Get one of each.
You connect the two 24V secondaries to each other. The 240V primary goes to the 240V main via a 1 amp fuse. The 120V primary feeds your controller. This is double-isolated from 240V, so it won't be terribly dangerous.
If you really want to, you can call it a separately derived service and add a neutral-ground equipotential bond to whichever leg of the 120V you want to call "neutral", but given that it is going straight into another transformer that will also isolate it, that seems like much ado about nothing.
I recommend to snip the plug off the cord and hardwire this thing, to avoid the temptation of someone plugging a circular saw into the outlet.
Wow, that was easy and cheap.
This is the best answer if it's not practical to reconfigure the controller to take 240V directly.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
Thanks for the reply, I'm a little unclear on what you mean. Although may be getting it. So connect them in series but reverse polarity? Kind of genius. so 240v>24V>24V>120V? So polarity will not matter to my controller? Thanks also for catching the 0.15A max input, I saw 0.5A max load, but that was the output at 24V DC.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
Looks like two of these will work? amazon.com/Packard-Control-Transformer-Class-Mount/dp/…
– farmtech
6 hours ago
@farmtech, yes, that will work. On the 240V input transformer, you'd connect the white and orange wires to the supply, connect the two transformers' red and green secondary wires, and on the output to your device you'd use the white and black primary wires. Transformers can step up or down just as easily, so you're just stepping down from 240 to 24, then stepping back up from 24 to 120.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
1
@Dotes -- this is a "back to back" configuration with only inches between the two transformers
– ThreePhaseEel
2 hours ago
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For the specific irrigation controller you linked, there's almost certainly a way to configure it to accept 240V directly.
From the international manual on their website:
Rated input:
Australia—240V AC 50/60Hz 0.15A
Europe—230V AC 50/60Hz 0.15A
USA—120V AC 60Hz 0.15A
I'd recommend contacting them to see if you can plug the one you have into 240V directly, or if there's some internal wires or jumpers that need to be reconfigured first.
This would be best of course, thanks I missed that! I will call.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
I called any they couldn't me with anything internal of course. But they did say I could buy from the UK, just no warranty support in the US then. I bet I could reconfigure, but gambling on that one for sure.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
It is almost triple the cost from the UK.....
– farmtech
6 hours ago
If you want to try reconfiguring it yourself, and can post pictures of the inside, we may be able to help. But if you'd rather not bother and/or you'd like to keep your warranty intact, Harper's answer will be the way to go.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
Great, I think I'll go in between and order them all and post pics and can return the transformers if needed. Thanks so much for your time!
– farmtech
5 hours ago
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At 0.15A x 120V, this thing is about 18 VA (similar to watts). That is significantly less than 40 VA.
As it happens, 40VA thermostat transformers are cheap and common as dirt, typically around $13. They make them with both 240V and 120V primaries. Get one of each.
You connect the two 24V secondaries to each other. The 240V primary goes to the 240V main via a 1 amp fuse. The 120V primary feeds your controller. This is double-isolated from 240V, so it won't be terribly dangerous.
If you really want to, you can call it a separately derived service and add a neutral-ground equipotential bond to whichever leg of the 120V you want to call "neutral", but given that it is going straight into another transformer that will also isolate it, that seems like much ado about nothing.
I recommend to snip the plug off the cord and hardwire this thing, to avoid the temptation of someone plugging a circular saw into the outlet.
Wow, that was easy and cheap.
This is the best answer if it's not practical to reconfigure the controller to take 240V directly.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
Thanks for the reply, I'm a little unclear on what you mean. Although may be getting it. So connect them in series but reverse polarity? Kind of genius. so 240v>24V>24V>120V? So polarity will not matter to my controller? Thanks also for catching the 0.15A max input, I saw 0.5A max load, but that was the output at 24V DC.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
Looks like two of these will work? amazon.com/Packard-Control-Transformer-Class-Mount/dp/…
– farmtech
6 hours ago
@farmtech, yes, that will work. On the 240V input transformer, you'd connect the white and orange wires to the supply, connect the two transformers' red and green secondary wires, and on the output to your device you'd use the white and black primary wires. Transformers can step up or down just as easily, so you're just stepping down from 240 to 24, then stepping back up from 24 to 120.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
1
@Dotes -- this is a "back to back" configuration with only inches between the two transformers
– ThreePhaseEel
2 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
At 0.15A x 120V, this thing is about 18 VA (similar to watts). That is significantly less than 40 VA.
As it happens, 40VA thermostat transformers are cheap and common as dirt, typically around $13. They make them with both 240V and 120V primaries. Get one of each.
You connect the two 24V secondaries to each other. The 240V primary goes to the 240V main via a 1 amp fuse. The 120V primary feeds your controller. This is double-isolated from 240V, so it won't be terribly dangerous.
If you really want to, you can call it a separately derived service and add a neutral-ground equipotential bond to whichever leg of the 120V you want to call "neutral", but given that it is going straight into another transformer that will also isolate it, that seems like much ado about nothing.
I recommend to snip the plug off the cord and hardwire this thing, to avoid the temptation of someone plugging a circular saw into the outlet.
Wow, that was easy and cheap.
This is the best answer if it's not practical to reconfigure the controller to take 240V directly.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
Thanks for the reply, I'm a little unclear on what you mean. Although may be getting it. So connect them in series but reverse polarity? Kind of genius. so 240v>24V>24V>120V? So polarity will not matter to my controller? Thanks also for catching the 0.15A max input, I saw 0.5A max load, but that was the output at 24V DC.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
Looks like two of these will work? amazon.com/Packard-Control-Transformer-Class-Mount/dp/…
– farmtech
6 hours ago
@farmtech, yes, that will work. On the 240V input transformer, you'd connect the white and orange wires to the supply, connect the two transformers' red and green secondary wires, and on the output to your device you'd use the white and black primary wires. Transformers can step up or down just as easily, so you're just stepping down from 240 to 24, then stepping back up from 24 to 120.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
1
@Dotes -- this is a "back to back" configuration with only inches between the two transformers
– ThreePhaseEel
2 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
At 0.15A x 120V, this thing is about 18 VA (similar to watts). That is significantly less than 40 VA.
As it happens, 40VA thermostat transformers are cheap and common as dirt, typically around $13. They make them with both 240V and 120V primaries. Get one of each.
You connect the two 24V secondaries to each other. The 240V primary goes to the 240V main via a 1 amp fuse. The 120V primary feeds your controller. This is double-isolated from 240V, so it won't be terribly dangerous.
If you really want to, you can call it a separately derived service and add a neutral-ground equipotential bond to whichever leg of the 120V you want to call "neutral", but given that it is going straight into another transformer that will also isolate it, that seems like much ado about nothing.
I recommend to snip the plug off the cord and hardwire this thing, to avoid the temptation of someone plugging a circular saw into the outlet.
Wow, that was easy and cheap.
At 0.15A x 120V, this thing is about 18 VA (similar to watts). That is significantly less than 40 VA.
As it happens, 40VA thermostat transformers are cheap and common as dirt, typically around $13. They make them with both 240V and 120V primaries. Get one of each.
You connect the two 24V secondaries to each other. The 240V primary goes to the 240V main via a 1 amp fuse. The 120V primary feeds your controller. This is double-isolated from 240V, so it won't be terribly dangerous.
If you really want to, you can call it a separately derived service and add a neutral-ground equipotential bond to whichever leg of the 120V you want to call "neutral", but given that it is going straight into another transformer that will also isolate it, that seems like much ado about nothing.
I recommend to snip the plug off the cord and hardwire this thing, to avoid the temptation of someone plugging a circular saw into the outlet.
Wow, that was easy and cheap.
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This is the best answer if it's not practical to reconfigure the controller to take 240V directly.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
Thanks for the reply, I'm a little unclear on what you mean. Although may be getting it. So connect them in series but reverse polarity? Kind of genius. so 240v>24V>24V>120V? So polarity will not matter to my controller? Thanks also for catching the 0.15A max input, I saw 0.5A max load, but that was the output at 24V DC.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
Looks like two of these will work? amazon.com/Packard-Control-Transformer-Class-Mount/dp/…
– farmtech
6 hours ago
@farmtech, yes, that will work. On the 240V input transformer, you'd connect the white and orange wires to the supply, connect the two transformers' red and green secondary wires, and on the output to your device you'd use the white and black primary wires. Transformers can step up or down just as easily, so you're just stepping down from 240 to 24, then stepping back up from 24 to 120.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
1
@Dotes -- this is a "back to back" configuration with only inches between the two transformers
– ThreePhaseEel
2 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
This is the best answer if it's not practical to reconfigure the controller to take 240V directly.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
Thanks for the reply, I'm a little unclear on what you mean. Although may be getting it. So connect them in series but reverse polarity? Kind of genius. so 240v>24V>24V>120V? So polarity will not matter to my controller? Thanks also for catching the 0.15A max input, I saw 0.5A max load, but that was the output at 24V DC.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
Looks like two of these will work? amazon.com/Packard-Control-Transformer-Class-Mount/dp/…
– farmtech
6 hours ago
@farmtech, yes, that will work. On the 240V input transformer, you'd connect the white and orange wires to the supply, connect the two transformers' red and green secondary wires, and on the output to your device you'd use the white and black primary wires. Transformers can step up or down just as easily, so you're just stepping down from 240 to 24, then stepping back up from 24 to 120.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
1
@Dotes -- this is a "back to back" configuration with only inches between the two transformers
– ThreePhaseEel
2 hours ago
This is the best answer if it's not practical to reconfigure the controller to take 240V directly.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
This is the best answer if it's not practical to reconfigure the controller to take 240V directly.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
Thanks for the reply, I'm a little unclear on what you mean. Although may be getting it. So connect them in series but reverse polarity? Kind of genius. so 240v>24V>24V>120V? So polarity will not matter to my controller? Thanks also for catching the 0.15A max input, I saw 0.5A max load, but that was the output at 24V DC.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
Thanks for the reply, I'm a little unclear on what you mean. Although may be getting it. So connect them in series but reverse polarity? Kind of genius. so 240v>24V>24V>120V? So polarity will not matter to my controller? Thanks also for catching the 0.15A max input, I saw 0.5A max load, but that was the output at 24V DC.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
Looks like two of these will work? amazon.com/Packard-Control-Transformer-Class-Mount/dp/…
– farmtech
6 hours ago
Looks like two of these will work? amazon.com/Packard-Control-Transformer-Class-Mount/dp/…
– farmtech
6 hours ago
@farmtech, yes, that will work. On the 240V input transformer, you'd connect the white and orange wires to the supply, connect the two transformers' red and green secondary wires, and on the output to your device you'd use the white and black primary wires. Transformers can step up or down just as easily, so you're just stepping down from 240 to 24, then stepping back up from 24 to 120.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
@farmtech, yes, that will work. On the 240V input transformer, you'd connect the white and orange wires to the supply, connect the two transformers' red and green secondary wires, and on the output to your device you'd use the white and black primary wires. Transformers can step up or down just as easily, so you're just stepping down from 240 to 24, then stepping back up from 24 to 120.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
1
1
@Dotes -- this is a "back to back" configuration with only inches between the two transformers
– ThreePhaseEel
2 hours ago
@Dotes -- this is a "back to back" configuration with only inches between the two transformers
– ThreePhaseEel
2 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
For the specific irrigation controller you linked, there's almost certainly a way to configure it to accept 240V directly.
From the international manual on their website:
Rated input:
Australia—240V AC 50/60Hz 0.15A
Europe—230V AC 50/60Hz 0.15A
USA—120V AC 60Hz 0.15A
I'd recommend contacting them to see if you can plug the one you have into 240V directly, or if there's some internal wires or jumpers that need to be reconfigured first.
This would be best of course, thanks I missed that! I will call.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
I called any they couldn't me with anything internal of course. But they did say I could buy from the UK, just no warranty support in the US then. I bet I could reconfigure, but gambling on that one for sure.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
It is almost triple the cost from the UK.....
– farmtech
6 hours ago
If you want to try reconfiguring it yourself, and can post pictures of the inside, we may be able to help. But if you'd rather not bother and/or you'd like to keep your warranty intact, Harper's answer will be the way to go.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
Great, I think I'll go in between and order them all and post pics and can return the transformers if needed. Thanks so much for your time!
– farmtech
5 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
For the specific irrigation controller you linked, there's almost certainly a way to configure it to accept 240V directly.
From the international manual on their website:
Rated input:
Australia—240V AC 50/60Hz 0.15A
Europe—230V AC 50/60Hz 0.15A
USA—120V AC 60Hz 0.15A
I'd recommend contacting them to see if you can plug the one you have into 240V directly, or if there's some internal wires or jumpers that need to be reconfigured first.
This would be best of course, thanks I missed that! I will call.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
I called any they couldn't me with anything internal of course. But they did say I could buy from the UK, just no warranty support in the US then. I bet I could reconfigure, but gambling on that one for sure.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
It is almost triple the cost from the UK.....
– farmtech
6 hours ago
If you want to try reconfiguring it yourself, and can post pictures of the inside, we may be able to help. But if you'd rather not bother and/or you'd like to keep your warranty intact, Harper's answer will be the way to go.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
Great, I think I'll go in between and order them all and post pics and can return the transformers if needed. Thanks so much for your time!
– farmtech
5 hours ago
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For the specific irrigation controller you linked, there's almost certainly a way to configure it to accept 240V directly.
From the international manual on their website:
Rated input:
Australia—240V AC 50/60Hz 0.15A
Europe—230V AC 50/60Hz 0.15A
USA—120V AC 60Hz 0.15A
I'd recommend contacting them to see if you can plug the one you have into 240V directly, or if there's some internal wires or jumpers that need to be reconfigured first.
For the specific irrigation controller you linked, there's almost certainly a way to configure it to accept 240V directly.
From the international manual on their website:
Rated input:
Australia—240V AC 50/60Hz 0.15A
Europe—230V AC 50/60Hz 0.15A
USA—120V AC 60Hz 0.15A
I'd recommend contacting them to see if you can plug the one you have into 240V directly, or if there's some internal wires or jumpers that need to be reconfigured first.
answered 7 hours ago
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This would be best of course, thanks I missed that! I will call.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
I called any they couldn't me with anything internal of course. But they did say I could buy from the UK, just no warranty support in the US then. I bet I could reconfigure, but gambling on that one for sure.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
It is almost triple the cost from the UK.....
– farmtech
6 hours ago
If you want to try reconfiguring it yourself, and can post pictures of the inside, we may be able to help. But if you'd rather not bother and/or you'd like to keep your warranty intact, Harper's answer will be the way to go.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
Great, I think I'll go in between and order them all and post pics and can return the transformers if needed. Thanks so much for your time!
– farmtech
5 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
This would be best of course, thanks I missed that! I will call.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
I called any they couldn't me with anything internal of course. But they did say I could buy from the UK, just no warranty support in the US then. I bet I could reconfigure, but gambling on that one for sure.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
It is almost triple the cost from the UK.....
– farmtech
6 hours ago
If you want to try reconfiguring it yourself, and can post pictures of the inside, we may be able to help. But if you'd rather not bother and/or you'd like to keep your warranty intact, Harper's answer will be the way to go.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
Great, I think I'll go in between and order them all and post pics and can return the transformers if needed. Thanks so much for your time!
– farmtech
5 hours ago
This would be best of course, thanks I missed that! I will call.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
This would be best of course, thanks I missed that! I will call.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
I called any they couldn't me with anything internal of course. But they did say I could buy from the UK, just no warranty support in the US then. I bet I could reconfigure, but gambling on that one for sure.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
I called any they couldn't me with anything internal of course. But they did say I could buy from the UK, just no warranty support in the US then. I bet I could reconfigure, but gambling on that one for sure.
– farmtech
6 hours ago
It is almost triple the cost from the UK.....
– farmtech
6 hours ago
It is almost triple the cost from the UK.....
– farmtech
6 hours ago
If you want to try reconfiguring it yourself, and can post pictures of the inside, we may be able to help. But if you'd rather not bother and/or you'd like to keep your warranty intact, Harper's answer will be the way to go.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
If you want to try reconfiguring it yourself, and can post pictures of the inside, we may be able to help. But if you'd rather not bother and/or you'd like to keep your warranty intact, Harper's answer will be the way to go.
– Nate Strickland
6 hours ago
Great, I think I'll go in between and order them all and post pics and can return the transformers if needed. Thanks so much for your time!
– farmtech
5 hours ago
Great, I think I'll go in between and order them all and post pics and can return the transformers if needed. Thanks so much for your time!
– farmtech
5 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
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What are you trying to power? It may well be easier to modify the device to accept 240V power than to try and get 120V in the building.
– Nate Strickland
9 hours ago
Also there's nothing wrong with using a transformer meant for travel within the US. This one, for example, might do nicely for you: amazon.com/Power-Bright-VC1500W-Transformer-converter/dp/…
– Nate Strickland
9 hours ago
@NateStrickland right on about changing the load! The problem with those autotransformers is they will provide an approximate center-tap but it's not a bona-fide neutral, so both wires will be hot.
– Harper
8 hours ago
What is the load? Will it be plugged into a receptacle or hard wired?
– batsplatsterson
8 hours ago
if it is just for an irrigation controller, then maybe all you need is an appropriate 240VAC transformer ..... probably one with a 24VAC output ..... something like this .... ebay.com/itm/… ........... or buy a controller designed for 240Vac ..... ebay.com/itm/…
– jsotola
8 hours ago